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Offline flintman

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Anyone have any loads for a Lyman #311316 in the .32 mag?
« on: April 28, 2004, 06:33:07 AM »
I have a Ruger .32 Single Six in 4.875" with adjustable sights(blued).Thank you,Jeff. :D
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2004, 08:52:40 AM »
I cast some bullets from a 311316 mold a while ago, the gas check shank was WAY undersize so the gas checks fell off. I would question wether the bullet is large enough in diameter(312) for the 32. I do have the Lyman #313631 which is a good bullet for the 32. I am completely opposed to gas checks on a revolver bullet though. I normally shoot the Saeco 120 grain flat point with 8 grains of WCC820. Very accurate and kills Jackrabbits quite suddenly.

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2004, 12:31:03 PM »
For the 311316, I use 4.5gr 800X.  Got that one from Ken Waters.  Plenty of speed without the blast and fury of ball powders.  Accurate?  You wouldn't believe me if I told you.  Use it in both my 4 5/8" Ruger and my 4" 631.  The RCBS 32-98SWC works great also (about 5gr 800X here).  For jacketed, the 85gr Hornady with 5.5gr 800X will shoot one hole groups off a bench at 25yds if you can hold it.  You won't believe what it does to a jackrabbit.  Also found that if you have trouble with gas checks, just use Hornady crimp-on's and quit worrying.  Use them in everything from .257 to .458.  Have never had any problem with them coming loose in any caliber or cartridge in many years use.

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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2004, 01:09:01 PM »
I tried Lyman, Hornady and Gator Checks. The problem was the gas check shank was undersize. Plus I shoot a lot so putting gas checks on revolver bullets is time consuming and pretty much a waste of time for what I shoot. I forgot about the Hornady 85 grain hollow point. What a fun bullet for picket pins and prairie dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really makes things happen down range.

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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2004, 02:06:12 PM »
If you have a friendly machinest, you could have the base in those blocks opened up a little rather than scrapping the mold.  Just a thought.

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Re: Anyone have any loads for a Lyman #311316 in the .32 mag
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2004, 07:32:29 AM »
flintman

"I have a Ruger .32 Single Six in 4.875" with adjustable sights(blued).Thank you,Jeff. :D[/quote]"

My 311316 drops WW cast bullets right at .313 from the mold.  I size them in a .314 for use in a S&W 4" M16-4 and .312 for use in my 6.5" Super Single Six.  With Hornady gas checks and Javilina lube they weigh right at 118 gr.  A pleasant and very accurate load for both revolvers is 4 gr of Unique.  It runs 975 fps in the S&W and 1025 in the Ruger.  I also push the bullet to 1300+ fps with Bluedot out of the Ruger.  311316 is a very good bullet for accurate magnum loads.  I mostly use the Lee 90 gr SWC for general shooting.

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2004, 03:45:31 PM »
I use the 100 gr SWC's over 10.2 gr of Lil' Gun.  Hits hard and is very accurate although I have not had the opportunity to Chronograph it yet.  The most accurate load I have found has been the same bullet over 10.5 gr of H4227.  It does 1050 fps and I had an especially good day a couple of years ago and put 10 shots into a dime sized group (outside to outside) at 25 yds.  I haven't found a bad load for the .32mag yet!  44 Man
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2004, 10:17:18 AM »
In the Ruger Super Single Six, I like the 115 gr. RNFP made by National Bullet Co. The loads are 3.5 gr. AA2 for 975 fps--5 gr. of AA5 for 1000 fps--and 7.5 gr. of 2400 for 1050 fps all with Fed 100 primers.

That bullet shoots very good in the Ruger, but in the Smith model 16, not so good.  I think that the twist is a little slow in the Smith.

Does anyone here happen to know the twist rate in the Smith model 16?
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2004, 05:28:43 PM »
try 2400 with 100 gr cast bullet[/b]
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2004, 11:45:59 PM »
try 10 grain of 4227 or 9 grain of wc820 or h108
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2004, 06:53:24 AM »
Some moulds for these Lyman-Ideal bullets cast a but undersized for typical .32 revolvers, but if yours casts large, say .313 as-cast, it should work just fine.  Some of the Ruger .32 Mags have tighter cylinder throats, and if you have one of these, sizing to .311-.312 is more in order.  

I like the Saeco #322 120-gr. RNFP cast of wheelweights and tumbled in Lee Liquid Alox, loading them unsized, as-cast.  I had Lee custom make me a .32 H&R Mag / .32 S&W Long factory crimp die with carbide profile sizer, which sizes the bullet by compression inside the loaded round during the crimping operation, so that you can bulk-lube bullets and forget the separate bullet sizing step which really speeds production.  They get $30 to make one of these dies in calibers not ordinarily listed.

In .32 S&W Long cases I use either 2.0 grs. of Bullseye, 3.0 grs. of W-W231, or 6 grs. of #2400 in the Ruger Single Six and in my S&W Model 31.  In .32 H&R Magnum cases for the Ruger only I use either 3.5 grs. of Bullseye,  4.0 grs. of W-W231, 7.5 grs. of #2400 or 9.0 grs. of H4227.

Some people load heavier than this in the Ruger, but I see the .32s as small game guns and if 850-1100 f.p.s. with a 120-gr. bullet won't do the job I get a bigger gun.  

I also have a break-open single-shot small game rifle I had made in .32 S&W Long, converted from an old tiny .410 shotgun.  In this the 120-gr. Saeco #322 loaded with 1.2 grs. of Bullseye is about 450 f.p.s., almost completely silent, and is both accurate and deadly on small game to 25 yards, making no more noise than an air rifle from its 26" barrel.
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