well my son uses a tracker2 20ga for deer, the one he shot last fall dropped where it stood at about 75 yrds. now his has a williams peep sight on the rear, and the factory one is in the trash somewhere. that is how it was when i bought it. but after trying a 12ga tracker2 myself, i can see why it was replaced. the peep is much better!!!!!!!!!! this one will hold great groups at 80yrds and 3-5 inch groups at 100. now that is off a bench, free hand i get like 6-8 inch groups, but that is all me, not the gun. if you want a slug thrower with open sights, and you want to keep your shoulder intact, then this is a great gun with plenty of power using the new sabots. matter a fact i hear great things about the new 20ga buckhammer from remington.