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Offline lubbockdave

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Ruger #3/#1 scope help
« on: May 02, 2004, 06:04:24 AM »
My Ruger #3 came with a tasco scope and as it is mounted I have to "crane" my neck forward to get a full field of view and the scope is as far back as the mounts will let it go, so...

I think it is called "eye relief", but I am not sure, but which brand or what specifications should I look for so that I don't have to stick my neck so far forward so get the total picture?

I was thinking a good 2-7X30 or 3-9X40 scope, with a price range for $150-$450.

Also, I have a #1 with no scope but would like suggestions for it as well. I imagine it will have the same "issues"-its a 257 roberts with a 26 inch barrel.

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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2004, 01:59:45 PM »
Everyone has thier own opinions on scopes, best thing to suggest is go and look some over.  Ask what the eye relief is and keep track before you make a decision.  Lower power scopes will sometimes have better eye relief.  On the #1 and #3, you may want to use some offset rings to bring the scope back further.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2004, 04:48:13 AM »
Dave,

That is one drawback to these guns. Poor eye relief.  I'm not sure if Ruger makes  off set scope rings that will fit the Ruger scope mounts or not? you may want to call Ruger and check. Otherwise, do not cut down the stock, or will ruin the collector value.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2004, 11:24:26 AM »
Eye relief is built into the scope. It is the distance from the rim of the scope to your eye when the full sight picture is visible to you through the lense. No change in rings or bases will alter eye relief.

Ideally, rings and bases on most rifles should allow for the scope to be positioned so that the averasge person's head is comfortably resting upright on the stock when the full sight picture is in view.

Ruger makes extension rings that give you more range to move the scope closer to your natural position on the stock. If the rifle is new and came with rings that do not fit you or your scope height, Ruger may replace the factory rings free of charge.

You may need two extension rings for amximum rear adjutmant range.

You will also find that on a variable power scope the lower powers keep you from 'creeping' up the stock.

I have found Leupold VXII 2x7 work very well for me on all my #1s.

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2004, 12:31:04 PM »
Like oneb said you might try a leupold or burris scope or the extended
rings... On one of my # 1s i had to cut a little off the butt which worked out just right because i wanted to put another butt pad on it, But that is a lot of work, and you must have the tools to work with. Hope you get it going ok. stay safe..............Joe..........................................................
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2004, 03:47:42 PM »
Hi Guys!

Been there and here's my final solution for a #1 in 45/70.  But first....I mounted a leupold Vari-X II using leupold medium, off set rings.  I bought 2 pair and used the off set ring from each set.  Worked fine for up to 4 or 5x and then I had to crane for 6 or 7x.  Leupold has a 4" eye relief so it was acceptable.

However...my final solution was to purchase a 2.5x leupold scout scope (13"eye releve), mount it as forward as possible in leupold low rings and, install a limb saver pre-fit pad (which added 1" to the over all length of pull and helps immensely with the recoil) and presto!.....plenty of eye relief and all the power I need for a 45/70.

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2004, 01:39:40 AM »
Almost any of the old weavers work great on my #1's. Actually, lots of older scopes seemed to have been designed with more ER than is deemed necessary today by the scope makers. As a general rule, almost any quality straight 6X scope will have the right combination of length and ER to work well on a #1. If you are not hung up on magnification, you can't beat a Leupold M8 4X (the full sized model, not the compact) as a perfect #1 scope for all-around use.

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2004, 02:36:27 PM »
i put a low powerd shot gun scope on my #1 with 5 inch eye relief that worked out great.
my only complaint is there is not a lot of room between the scope the breech

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2004, 04:09:18 PM »
I just bought 2 offset rings for my #1B, and I found out that with my Nikon Buckmaster, I'm no better off than I was with my standard rings. The turret on the bottom of the scope limits the rearward space that is supposed to be gained by the offset rings. That was $60 bucks wasted...
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