Where to find adult air rifles?

[big6x6]

I have used the following:

www.straightshooters.com

www.dnrsports.com

www.airgunsofarizona.com

www.airgunexpress.com

www.pomona-airguns.com

www.mac1airgun.com

[Lawdog]

Add to big6x6's list with the following;

http://www.compasseco.com/

http://www.pyramydair.com/

http://www.airgundepot.com/

http://www.natchezss.com/

Midsouth is another outlet as are Bass Pro and Cabela's.  One thing is STAY AWAY from Gamo products.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[varmit_master]

Hi Lawdog i was Looking at the Tech Force 99 .177 cal is it any good please let me know what you think VM

[Lawdog]

varmit_master,

I bought the Tech Force 99M in .22 caliber and it is a bargain at twice the price.  Got it for a truck rifle, something that wouldn’t cost to much so if it got banged up or ripped off I wouldn’t be out a bundle.  I mounted a low cost BSA air rifle approved 3-12X scope on mine and it too is working out very well.  Very surprised at the accuracy and the power along with the quality of the workmanship.  The rear sight could be better but all in all a very good air rifle.  Let me ask you a question.  What are you planning on doing with it?  I mean hunting or target shooting or a combination of the two.  If it is a combination of the two let me recommend that you go with the .22 caliber.  Much better choice for hunting while still very accurate for target work.  If target shooting is what you have in mind then go with the .177.  Let me know what you decide.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[Rmouleart]

Hi guys, This year I have a baited hunt up on the boarder of Maine/canada with NorthernHideaway. Guide Rod Serios. But this time is different, I'm using a Dragon 50cal air rifle, that uses 225/250/270gr cast bullets, traveling around 800-900fps, this is a rifled barrel, operates under 3000psi;)
while testing I found great accuracy using these bullets and great penetration as well, I'm doing this hunt for Pyramyd corp, they developed this rifle, and it is one of the most powerful air rifles in the world, hands down.
http://www.pyramydair.com/site/articles/career-dragon/

Pyramyd hired me to hunt big game for them to prove the rifle is well capable of expiring big game with in its range adequately and humanly. I can't wait, hunting black bears with a air rifle, I did have to call F&G first to see if this was feasible, they gave me the thumbs up, so I'm in. This may be something that may catch on. I will keep you guys updated, if everything works out I will of course write a story, and Ken Piper editor of BuckMasters assured me he would be delighted to publish it as well, i am also going to film the hunt. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

[Lawdog]

Rmouleart,

First let me Welcome you to Graybeard Outdoors.  The best forum on the net for hunters/shooters going today(although I may be somewhat bias).  I, for one, would like to know more about the rifle and the company that makes it.  I have been looking into getting either a Barnes or a Quackenbush Big Bore air rifle.  Do they have a web site?  Could you tell a little more about this rifle?  Specifications would be great.  Keep us informed on your progress with it.  And again Welcome to Graybeard Outdoors.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[dave]

Made by Shinsung in Korea, not Pyramidair. Its a modification of the .22 Career rifle thats been sold for a few years now.
http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/model.pl?model_id=486
Also available at Compasseco
http://www.compasseco.com/shop/products.html?maingroup=ShinSung&secondgroup=Air%20Rifles

[PaladinX13]

His website seems to be down but try:

Golden Toller Airguns RR 1 Box 217 (Rte 182) * Cherryfield, ME 04622 * (207) 546-7421

I bought my PPC from him and everything was smooth.

[big6x6]

"His website seems to be down but try:

Golden Toller Airguns RR 1 Box 217 (Rte 182) * Cherryfield, ME 04622 * (207) 546-7421

I bought my PPC from him and everything was smooth."

Joe(his last name escapes me), owner of Golder Toller, passed away a couple of years ago.  No longer a business.  He was one of the best!!

[varmit_master]

Hi Lawdog my dad has the T Force 97 and i put a 4x scope on it and small game hunted with it is worth the money and my brother has a 97 he has killed crows with it  i am looking at the T Force 99 .177 mostly to shoot black birds and stuff like that VM

[Rmouleart]

Hi guys thanks for the welcome, Lawdog, Pyramidair is the biggest distributer in the world they carry A-Z in air rifles and corps, not only the biggest, they do design there own air rifles, and the Dragon was designed bye a engineer that works for Pyramidair, yes it was made in Korea Shinsung corp ,but designed bye Pyramidair, a engineer name Joshua designed the dragon,
Val Gammerman is the President of sales, a really nice guy, if you need more specific info call there toll free no# ask for Joshua tell him I referred you, I'm Rick the one who is field testing his rifle, he will be glad to help you.  Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

[Lawdog]

varmit_master,

The Tech Force 97 is a good rifle with a accuracy rating of 0.15" C-T-C.  The 99M has an accuracy rating of 0.13" C-T-C.  These figures rival those of higher priced rifles from companies like Beeman, RWS and others.  I bought the 99M in .22 caliber because you must use at least a .20 caliber air rifle to be legal for hunting turkey here in California.  I took a nice young tom about a week ago using mine.  One thing I will say about the Tech Force 99M that I have is that it gets it's best accuracy using premium pellets.  Try using something like Crosman Copperheads, etc. and the groups really open up.  Two other guys that have Tech Force rifles tell me the very same thing.  As far as I am concerned they are well worth looking into for anyone that is looking to get a good, accurate air rifle and is on a budget.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[varmit_master]

Hi Lawdog when my brother got his and my dads he got some RWS pellets i think was the name of them and they was match grade and they shot great  i have killed a skunk and a opossum with my dads gun i had to shoot the skunk 3 times to make shure he was dead lol :eek: for the money i think i will go with the 99 or i could save a little money and get the 97 they are good guns for the money i think and i will go with the .177 cal VM

[Lawdog]

varmit_master,

Skunks can be tough but the real trick is killing one without having them unload their main armament thus rendering the local area unlivable for a period of time.  Head shots do not guarantee this.  A high school buddy came to school one day complaining about having to camp out.  When asked why he said that a skunk had gotten under their house and their father had decided to get rid of it by shooting it.  Seeing he didn’t want the skunk to leave a lingering reminder of it’s presents he shot it in the head.  WRONG MOVE.  The skunk went into contortions, unloading it’s main weaponry rendering the house unlivable for a period of time.

As you can see from below you can get a 99M in .22 caliber that shoots as fast as a .177 caliber in the 97.  While the Tech Force 97 is a good buy I believe you would be better served with the 99M.  A little better trigger, faster and it features a spring piston power plant with a piston spring by Jim MacCari, considered the best spring maker in the U.S. which is a little better than the spring piston power plant on the 97.  Just wanted to bring this to mind before you buy.

Tech Force 99 M $135.96
Shoots at 1100 fps in .177 and 900 fps in .22 caliber.

Tech Force 97 $79.96
Shoots at 900 fps in .177

Which ever one you buy let me know how it works out for you.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[varmit_master]

Hi Lawdog i was thinking about what you said you are right the Tech Force 99 22 cal would be the way to go because the .177 is shooting 200 fps faster than the 22 cal But the 22 cal moving 900 fps is moving on back when i was in scholl i  use to have a Crossman 22 cal pump air gun and i had one in a .177 and the 22 cal would nock a bird out better you could hear the pellet hit lol i will let you know which one i get and how it shoots VM

[VictorLouis]

www.airgunsofarizona.com

www.airgunexpress.com


I've met the owners of each operation, and they both are quite knowledgable gentlemen, in every sense of that word.  You can't go wrong with either operation.

[big6x6]

" little better trigger, faster and it features a spring piston power plant with a piston spring by Jim MacCari, considered the best spring maker in the U.S. which is a little better than the spring piston power plant on the 97."

"James Maccari" of Maccari Custom Airgun Shop is NOT associated with "Jim MacCari."  James Maccari has never made springs for Tech Force air guns.

[sherpa]

i have a techforce XS B20 and the 4x12 techforce scope plenty of power and am very happy i could not beat the gun for the price, adjustable trigger and AO scope best accuracy with the beeman pellets.

[Lawdog]

big6x6,

"James Maccari" of Maccari Custom Airgun Shop is NOT associated with "Jim MacCari." James Maccari has never made springs for Tech Force air guns.

We are talking about two different people.  I have talked to other very knowledge air gun shooters/builders and they acknowledge the Jim MacCari(the correct spelling) is one of the better spring makers in the United States.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[big6x6]

Maybe so.  When you said spring makers I assumed you were talking about Jim Maccari, also known as "springman."  He told me he has never supplied Tech Force with any spring whatsoever.

http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/page/page/251327.htm

[Lawdog]

big6x6,

The Jim MacCari that I am talking about has the following web sites,

www.airguns.citymax.com
www.airrifleheadquarters.com

I won’t post his e-mail address without his permission but if this is the same person that you are talking about then in an e-mail conversion I had with him he stated the following,

“Sorry I do not make anything for those Chinese guns other than what I make for Compasseco.”

Compasseco then takes these springs and installs them in the Tech Force air rifles making them an even better product.  This is how his springs are in Tech Force rifles.  Seeing you know this man you ask him if he doesn’t make springs for Compasseco, Inc..  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[lilabner]

Rmouleart, your discussion of big game hunting with an air rifle was very interesting to me. With the bullet weights listed and 900 fps, well placed shots should do a lot of damage. You've probably read the Lewis and Clark journals - Capt. Lewis brought an air rifle along and hunted big game with it extensively. He also scared the Indians by demonstrating the power and accuracy it had. They were spooked because there was no smoke and much less noise. What big game rifles are currently available on the market?

[Rmouleart]

www.pyramydair.com has a large selection of air rifles, all types from small game to large game air rifles. VAl Gammerman of pyramydair is the head of sales, ask for him for detailed infoon there big game air rifles, There is a airgun that is setup like a shotgun that is intresting and uses shotgun slug like ammo as well. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

[varmit_master]

Hi Lawdog i was wrong about my dad's pellet gun i shot it some over the week end it is a Gamo pellet gun i shot it some and it shoots hard i am whating for my book to show up aand i am going to order me a Tech Fore model 99 and been thinking about going with the 22 cal one my dad's is a .177 cal shooting 900 fps and it will nock a bird out at a long shot and i think i will go with the 22 cal to use on small game stuff VM

[Lawdog]

varmit_master,

The TechForce 99M is an excellent choice.  Accurate, powerful, says it all.  I really like mine and so has everyone that I have let shoot it.  Stay away from Gamo, J U N K.  Junk products and a junk company.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[Mitch in MI]

"James Maccari" of Maccari Custom Airgun Shop is NOT associated with "Jim MacCari."  James Maccari has never made springs for Tech Force air guns.

Jim made one batch of springs to Compasseco's specifications. He didn't design them, he just made them. IIRC, they didn't want his input in the process, just higher quality wire and his name.
I'm pretty sure he used to have this in his FAQ, but I can't seem to find the FAQ on the citymax page. (I can't even find any reference to his dog on the web page now, she was always a prominent part of the business)

Mitch.

[varmit_master]

Hi Lawdog in my new pellet gun book they have the Tech Force 97 for 99.95 Add additlonal 25.00 for a mainspring by Jim MacCari installed so that would be 124.95 for the 97 how would the gun be with out the MacCari spring in it  and if it is better i would be better giving 45.00 dollars more for the the 99 model because it has it in it what is the best name brand pellets to shoot out of them VM

[Lawdog]

varmit_master,

The mainspring by Jim MacCari is only one of a few differences between the 97 and the 99M.  The accuracy rating is a tad bit better(0.13" for the 99 as compared to 0.15" for the 97) and the trigger is much better on the 99M.  While the trigger on the 97 is not adjustable it isn't bad but the 99M has an adjustable Rekord trigger that is one of the better ones for air rifles.  I have both now and I think the 99M is a much better deal but the 97 isn't bad if you are pressed for money.

So far I am using Beeman pellets in all of my air rifles.  They give me good consistency through the caliber range.  For hunting I use Beeman Crow Magnum pellets(doesn’t matter what the caliber) and for targets and birds I use Beeman H&N wad cutter pellets(again doesn’t matter what the caliber).  I have also tried the .22 caliber Exterminator Pellets(Domed pellet, weighting 22.5 grains(average weight of 5 groups of 10 pellets each)) which are very accurate but hard to get.  RWS(their domed and hollow point versions) and Crosman Premiers are also good but a little on the light side to suit me for hunting purposes.  Hope this helps you, if not just tell me.  Small groups and tight lines to you.  Lawdog
 

[varmit_master]

Hi Lawdog i look up Compasseco web site and it said take another 20% so you can get the 97 for 79.96 and the 99 for 135.96 now that is a buy if i was going to shoot birds and targets the .177 will do wont it i will have to get some of the pellets you talk about and try thanks VM

[Airsporter]

Rmouleart,

"Pyramidair is the biggest distributer in the world" - what a load!  They are relative newcomers and have already established a less than sterling reputation among true airgun aficionados.

Powerful for an airgun, "225/250/270gr cast bullets, traveling around 800-900fps" is .45 ACP/.45 Colt handgun territory.  Not exactly preferred medicine for big game.  Yeah, it can be done.  My bow works well too.

Talk to Gary Barnes if you really want to take big game with an airgun.

http://www.glbarnes.com/index.html

Maybe a Yukon 58 GS (Grand Slam) shooting a 510 grain Barnes slug @ approx. 775 fps