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« on: May 05, 2004, 11:56:36 AM »
Lets see what you guys think. At a recent match I was told that my rifle was "Kind of close to the limit on the trigger pull"this was because it just barely picks up the 2lb weight and then breaks. If the rule says that min trigger pull is 2lbs, then, shouldn't we use a trigger weight to check triggers that weights slightly over 2lbs :? ? The way I read the rule it is OK for the trigger to break at 2lbs but not less..... am I wrong?
what do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2004, 12:44:56 PM »
yes you are right!, I remember at 1997 Canadian Nationals there was a protest as to the light triger and winning wrgument was that its need to pick up 2 Lb NOT LESS, so at 2Lb exactly you are not close - YOU ARE JUST AT THE BOTTOM MARKER OF THE RULE
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2004, 07:41:26 PM »
perhaps i've been on a plane too much but why would you have a 2lb 1oz weight to check for a 2lb threshold?   doesn't matter if your trigger is .5oz over or 5lbs over.  as long as it picks up 2lbs it is good.  if you have a weight that is more than 2lbs you create the opportunity to disqualify a rifle that is legal.  am i missing something?
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2004, 07:19:43 AM »
Actually what I am saying is to have a weight that is 1 oz less than 2 lbs and the trigger should not break then. That would let you assume that it will be breaking at 2lbs or more since you don't care how much more over 2lbs it is going to break at.
All you want to make sure is that it does not break at less than 2lbs. :?
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2004, 11:09:18 AM »
Why not just set your trigger to 2lbs1 oz or 2lbs2oz and then you wouldn't have to fret over being under weight at an important match.  Being too close to the line has it risks.  Do you believe an extra ounce or even 2 will hurt you scores?  

I just left a silhouette sport that in my opinion was constantly pushing the rules to the point of silliness for me and what I like to do.  There were too many that couldn't live within the rules and constantly seek competitive advantage by pushing the rules "envelope" in what our sport called Production.  
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Actually what I am saying is to have a weight that is 1 oz less than 2 lbs and the trigger should not break then. That would let you assume that it will be breaking at 2lbs or more since you don't care how much more over 2lbs it is going to break at.
All you want to make sure is that it does not break at less than 2lbs. :?
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2004, 12:28:55 PM »
i am sure that most of us do just that.  i usually set my trigger at 2lb 6oz just to be sure...  but there are quite afew of us that don't own trigger scales or weights and are just hoping that we are okay.   and...  i wouldn't consider someone setting their trigger right at 2lbs to be pushing the rules.  to the contrary, that individual would be playing by the rules...  inviting problems perhaps, if the scale at the match is a bit off, but certainly not "pushing" anything.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2004, 12:37:55 PM »
Hum!!! how sad.... :gulp:
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2004, 01:09:04 PM »
Hi Dave

I agree that setting to the 2lb limit isn't pushing the rules but is running the risk of not making the limit by getting a little too close.  Going to 1 lb 15 oz is what I was talking about pushing the rules.  If you were to go to the 1 lb 15 oz then somebody sure as shootin will try for a trigger of 1 lb 15 .1 oz and so it goes.   My old sport said  "any safe trigger" and i have seen many a player set em so light that the gun might have to be cocked to or three times for the trigger to actually set.  Those were too light in my mind.  

I think you are prudent at 2 lb 6oz and then getting used to it with lots of practice.  This way you sail thru the check in without any problems.  Getting into a debate with the officials doesn't help calm nerves for shooting.  
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i am sure that most of us do just that.  i usually set my trigger at 2lb 6oz just to be sure...  but there are quite afew of us that don't own trigger scales or weights and are just hoping that we are okay.   and...  i wouldn't consider someone setting their trigger right at 2lbs to be pushing the rules.  to the contrary, that individual would be playing by the rules...  inviting problems perhaps, if the scale at the match is a bit off, but certainly not "pushing" anything.
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