Author Topic: 357 max rechamber (Read 1084 times)

22KHornet · « **on:** May 12, 2004, 03:48:01 AM »

OK I got the reamer from DJ and was getting ready to start the process last night when I ran into a little problem. First of all Haywire had mentioned removing the extractor before he started. Is this something that I really need to do and if so HOW :oops: . Also Haywire had mentioned that he would suggest not going all the way to the stop. If I am planning on this do I still need to remove the extractor, if I am careful and not going to the stop I should not touch the extractor right?

I am sure that I could figure out how to get the extractor out but after the time I went to put reduced springs in my blackhawk and ended up finding a gunsmith I would rather ask than break something.

By the way thanks DJ you sent the reamer, cutting oil, and even the little tool to turn it with, have one just cannot remember the proper name for it. Thanks again :grin:

Deadeye47 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2004, 04:09:01 AM »

I too would like to know how to do that as I've never tinkered with any of my guns...I'm sure its a simple process but.....I would think it would be hard to turn the handle on tool when ya got down aways...you would be fighting the extractor all the time as its spring loaded...correct guys?!

22KHornet · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2004, 04:35:06 AM »

Actually I can push my extractor all the down and it will stay in place. This is with the barrel off the frame only.

Deadeye47 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2004, 05:31:03 AM »

well..that being the case I would think removing it is to just protect it from getting junk stuck down in it...anyway..like I said I'm just talking off the top of the noggin and do not have any experience in reaming...we'll just have to wait and see what the 'experts' on the board have to say...... :wink:

handirifle · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2004, 07:59:36 AM »

Look in the FAQ's I think there is a post there with info on making it an extractor instead of ejector. The details of removal are the same.

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2004, 08:05:18 AM »

It's a far cry from my name and the word "expert" being mentioned in the same breath. I'm a piddler at best. That said... If I were going to do MY rifle again I would stop about 1/16" before the reamer bottoms out. The problem that I see with that idea is that you might end up with a uniformity problem in the throat area. I was thinking about a way to have a surface to run it against to avoid that problem. Sliding a 1/16' washer over the reamer so that it bottomed out earlier might work if it wasn't a cheap one and was actually flat.
It's just one of my crackpot ideas.. I don't recommend you do that with your rifle, especially since 357 barrels aren't replaceable.... I don't want any hard feelings if it doesn't work out, and since the idea oozed out of my grey matter it very well may not. Just running it down to the stop like it was designed is your safest bet.

good luck,
Ian

22KHornet · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2004, 08:23:28 AM »

I did not see anything in the FAQ's about the removal of the ejector or extraction. I think I will try and ream the 357 out until the stop almost comes in contact with the extractor and then stop (making sure I can chamber a round and it will extract first of course). Install the scope, boresight, take it to the range this weekend and see how it shoots. If it seems to be having problems I will try and remove the extractor next week and finish reaming the chamber out to the stop. If anyone thinks I am smoking my socks or harming the barrel let me know. Otherwise here goes nothing :shock:

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2004, 08:34:52 AM »

Removing the extractor is as easy as driving out one of the spring pins in the side of the barrel stub while holding the extractor so it doesn't shoot across the room, but I recall there are 2 of them there and I'm not home to refresh my memory.

Ian

22KHornet · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2004, 08:36:38 AM »

I am thinking that I will wait until tomorrow evening anyway so any help would be greatly appreciated. :grin: Better yet I think I will go down to the farm on Saturday to do this. That way I have a shop with a nice big vise (instead of my little one) and can bounce idea's off dad while I patiently turn the tee handle. I would still like to remove the extractor, better to be safe now than sorry later.

marv · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2004, 09:30:55 AM »

May be I can explain how to remove it. with barrel out of the action,
Look on the right side of the barrel lug, There is two roll pins that hold
the ejector and sping in the on at the camber end, drive it out {to the left] but not all the way out, they are hard to start back in. The small nearest
the muzzle is the one to hold spring. Not nessecery to remove it. The large one us the operator far the ejector. I don't think you have to remove it. I think you need to remove ejector Be careful do not drop
remear on concrete floor Be buing a new reamer. I think that covers everything. I am not a exrert , but did mine, Marv.

Leftoverdj · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2004, 09:56:48 AM »

You can, and I have, just hold the extractor down out of the way while reaming.

I ream until the rim cutter touches the counterbore. If you chamber short, you wind up with the chance that a roll crimped cartridge will chamber, but will not have room for the crimp to release when fired. That would run pressures dangerously high.

22KHornet · « **Reply #11 on:** May 12, 2004, 11:37:47 AM »

Boy, I know this is going to sound like a stupid question but by counterbore do you mean where the head of the cartridge would sit?

Leftoverdj · « **Reply #12 on:** May 12, 2004, 11:43:14 AM »

Ledge the front of the rim rests on is the counterbore.

marv · « **Reply #13 on:** May 12, 2004, 11:45:12 AM »

22K That's right Dat's DJ means. I did remove the eject when I
did mine. Marv Not that hard

22KHornet · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2004, 07:51:16 AM »

Thanks All will give it a whirl this weekend. :grin:

marv · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2004, 08:13:30 AM »

Why wait it not that hard, all of 10 to 15 minutes of work.
I took mine in all the way to contra bore give about right for few
Bore. Marv.

22KHornet · « **Reply #16 on:** May 13, 2004, 08:21:29 AM »

Well tonight I have yard work :cry: and then the neighbors are coming over to watch survivor (don't ask, fiance lives for that show) and we will have a few beers while we eat and watch the show so starting at 9 or later after the neighbors leave with a few beers in me would probably cause a little drama. Friday I get home, pack and head down to the farm to try and scout roosting turkey's. So that leaves Saturday about 11 (or earlier if I get a turkey :grin: ) and then bore site it, shoot it at the bench and head home, sheesh.

scruffy · « **Reply #17 on:** May 13, 2004, 08:51:31 AM »

Hey hornet, how are you roosting your birds? Are you using a gobble locator or seeing where they're eating in the evening, or what?

For some dumb reason I thought the season was over on the 14th.... I just looked at my tag, 16th, well, my plans for the weekend just changed! I still need to tear apart one of my old antique tractors to do some work on it but I won't be starting at 8:00am... More like noon. :wink:

later,
scruffy

22KHornet · « **Reply #18 on:** May 13, 2004, 10:18:40 AM »

Binoculars and luck. Find some Turkey's high in the tree and hope they are gobblers and not hens, real scientific ain't I. :grin:

scruffy · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2004, 03:18:45 AM »

Yea, that's what I do. It's harder with leeves on the trees. Earlier in the season I set up on a pair of crows and last week I set up on a buzzard. I was doing my glassing early early morning at first light... I never have found one in the evening, but I'll be trying again tonight... :wink:

Edit, I'm also going to go out to do some soft yelping and clucks at 6:00pm. Even if I don't call one in I might call one closer to roost near me. Then Saturday morning I'll set up near the same spot and hope a gobble roosted close to me. It worked a couple of weeks ago, maybe lightning will strike twice.

later,
scruffy