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Offline Minkman

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« on: May 14, 2004, 10:05:38 AM »
I saw the other discussion about Cape Buffalo hunts in the US. Does anyone have any solid information on ranches that have Cape Buffalo Hunts? Thanks

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2004, 11:19:16 PM »
Well I guess there is interest in cape buffalo, but no one has replied with any information on hunting them in the States. Are buffalo diffcult to raise, keep alive, keep penned up....?

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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2004, 02:28:58 AM »
To my knowledge you are not allowed to import them into the US.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2004, 04:20:34 AM »
minkman,  i was interested in the idea of hunting cape buff in Texas, but really haven't found info on the subject.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2004, 03:57:07 PM »
Hi-Adventure Ranch in Missouri did list them at about 8K

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2004, 05:53:12 PM »
Cape buff or water buff? There are several places with water buffalo but I've never seen anyone with cape buffalo. I know Hi Adventure has Watusi but that's just a wild bull really. Hardly a cape buff.


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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2004, 03:30:59 AM »
Their website www.highadventureranch.com lists cape buffalo at 5k.

 Due to medical conditions I will never be able to go to Africa and a safari, so I was instantly interested when I saw it.

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2004, 04:01:54 AM »
First time I seen Cape buffalo advertised. I have seen a lot of water buffalo hunts out there.  :D
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2004, 06:30:23 AM »
OK here is the skinny on this. I called and spoke with the guy who owns the place. He used to offer the hunts for Cape Buffalo when he could get them. He has an open order with his broker to take all of them he can get from legitimate sources.  He is going to call the broker again and check on status and IF any are available he will call me back to let me know and I'll post it here for you.

Says at this time the only thing available are from zoos and they are sick and would not be a good hunt and he will not take those. He has already had to turn down about six of his regulars he says due to lack of availability of them.


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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2005, 01:59:10 AM »
Had heard there were Cape Buffalo in the US in private hands, but didn`t realise they were available for hunts... I have never hunted Cape Buffalo, however I have seen them in the wilds of South Africa and been on the Game captures, where these are resold to other reserves.

A truly magnificent animal and an exceptionally dangerous one too. I only know of one other animal that can compare - the Gaur Bull. Seeing the solitary Buffalo bulls pushing their way thru thorn bush, you really come to realise just how powerful these animals are. Their disposition is created out of their quest for females, fighting other males, fending predators and in the wild, they seem to be just born mean! I have met several people who have had run ins with these fearsome beasts. My neighbours life was saved whilst he was on a Buffalo hunt in Kenya in the 70s' by a quick thinking guide. I met a Zulu Wildlife Officer who had been gored by a Buffalo cow in Natal Province and lived to tell the tale.

What I am leading at here is -  this is what makes a trophy Cape Buffalo prized, it is like no other trophy animal. It isn`t just the mount at the end of the hunt, it is the story behind the hunt and the animal who earnt his scars and disposition! No one I know with trophy Cape Buffalo mounts will give you a quick 2 minute talk on the shot they made. They will have you engulfed in a story of the days leading up to the hunt, the tracking of several animals to locate that one you desire, the sights and smells, the hair standing up on their neck and of course, the setting up of the shot to take that trophy... I have heard the stories so many times and never tire of them.

I hear of trophy costs of $5000-$8000 US to hunt a Cape buffalo in the US. At those prices, why not get the "full trophy" - the experience, the story that goes with that trophy you shot. Go to South Africa or Botswana. Shop around and you will be surprised that not all hunts are beyond reach  for the every day guy... Some outfitters love the wealthy foreigner and many cater hunts to this high price bracket. However there are the genuine small operators too, who are not there to scalp you. Go out of season. The exchange rate is way in your favour, so you are in front already! Like I said - the Cape buffalo trophy is like no other, it is way more than the mount. Just my thoughts....

ps: to add a few words to some questions.
In reference to Wild Cape Buffalo - Yes they are hard to keep penned up and will kill themselves trying to get out or to get at you. Working these animals in confined areas is a real art. One fraught with danger and risks to the animals if not done with experience.

It is virtually impossible to import any Buffalo from Africa to any country in the world. Disease is the reason [TB, Brucellosis etc]. Buffalo are big carriers of many of the worlds worst bovine diseases. Some of which we introduced when colonizing the continent. However within South Africa there are 2 distinct classifications of buffalo. Those from the disease areas and those from the disease free, which are know as the "clean" herds. Clean animals still cannot be imported, however they can be moved within Africa much more freely than non certified clean Buffalo. Ranchers and Reseves re-introducing Buffalo to a clean area, will buy disease free Buffalo. Which can sell for up to $30 000 US a piece, as against $2000-$5000 for animals from a non certified herd. These have strict restrictions to their movement.... Buffalo are a big investment in South Africa and I have heard of enquiry made to reintroduce Buffalo being bred in Countries outside of Africa, as they have clean status...

Cape Buffalo or just Buffalo as the locals call them are "A" No1 in my book. The "ultimate" animal. Having seen them in their natural habitat, up close and had a very little experience with them. Given the chance I would clean out all my cattle and fill the ranch with them. Hunt one, Not for me, I have been been hooked on Buffalo in a different way. Sit on the porch, watching a herd move to a water hole, or a pair of bulls fighting over cows. This is for me. With a nice cold beer of course ;)

BKS  sorry to hear you cannot travel to Sth Africa. If you can travel to Down Under, we have some real mean Asiatic Buffalo in our countrys' north, with numerous wild boar to fill in the time. I know a local guy who may have recently shot the world record Asiatic Buffalo... I will have to check on that, do know the photo was extremely impressive!
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2005, 04:37:19 AM »
nice post, thanks.   Recently some bow Hunters seeking Elk might disagree with you and say that the Grizzley is the most fearsome creature.  Apparently there has been an increase in attacks on Elk hunters.  Either one of them would be a great trophey, and they both scare the heck outta me.  LOL
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2005, 03:45:51 PM »
hahaha. Mark, I don`t doubt you on the Grizzley and was nervous sitting in my Lounge just watching a documentary on the Kodiak bear. 2 days ago an Aussie lady was killed in Kenya by a Hippo, tho it was her fault for straying from camp at night. It is their world we stray into!

I guess I perceive bear and the big cats as being dangerous and expect them to be that way, so have an instilled respect and caution. I work with cattle all day,near every day. You often come across a bad one, one that is just pure mean, but mostly they are easily workable and to navigate thru... Many times you are stunned at how pure dumb they can be [well so we think ;)]. To look at Cape Buffalo and the wild Gaur cattle of Asia and see a beast that you can take a little for granted as they resemble our domesticated cow - well in a  small way. To understand that this animal will actually track you, quietly and persitantly, using the shadows and camoflage of the brush to lure you to a spot of ambush as a traditional preditor does. That it will become the hunter amazes me... Many animals attack out of fear or to protect. A Cape Buffalo or a Gaur Bull will actually look for you, if they know you are on their turf and will hunt.

My neighbour was in Kenya tracking his trophy Buffalo bull with his well experinced guide. What he didn`t realise, was that this solitary Bull which was leading them thru the thorn scrub, was not alone. As the Bull appeared in a small circular clearing, my neighbour readied his shot. The guide was off to his side and providing the saftey back up shot if required. The bull didnot apear to have a huge cape on him, and my neighbour was thinking of leaving him. When from the side, without any previous indication, a bull came crashing thru the scrub 20 yards away on their flank. The bull ran over the guide to get to my neighbour. In doing so, the guide fired from the ground with the muzzle on the animals hide and placed a shot thru the brisket. My neighbour who had hunted Africa many times, was behind a small tree as the original intended bull came for him. he shot it 3 times and thankfully it dropped. The wounded bull shot 1st in the following seconds rose to its feet. My neighbour climbed the tree as this bull screwed its horns working in a circle around the tree trying to dislodge him. It didn`t try for the guide and kept at this untill it finally colapsed. Post mortum showed he was lung shot. The guide turned out unhurt, just bruised. When they retraced their tracks, they found that this bull had been tracking them for near 2 hours. The 2 bulls had worked together. Reading old hunting stories of Africa and India thru to the colonial days, I have read similar and equally chilling tales. Talking with friends in Africa involved with game Capture and Hunting professions. They all tell me the Cape Buffalo is the one they respect [fear] the most...

In South Africa as guest of the Natal Wildlife Service, I was invited to go on Rhino Captures at Umfolozi Reserve. Speeding off in an open Landrover to locate the darted White Rhino, a bull Elephant burst thru the scrub at a creek crossing and began chasing us. He was very close and did begin gaining ground fast. I felt the adrenaline pump thru and sure was glad the Land Rover managed to pull away.  I remember one of the Zulu guys reaching over and pulling a 2" pipe bar across my door as we sped along. Can`t say that actually made me feel safe! Funny thing was, later that day, we pulled up with a beer on a Track were a Buffalo Bull was standing in the thorn bush about 30 yards away. He was scared from head to hoof. From the thorn bush, fighting and possible scrapes with lion. He stood their with no fear of the vehicle, eyeballing me. Maybe I had read too many hunting tales of the past, but the hair stood up on my neck my mouth was dry and I felt a chill take over. All I could think of was - what a powerful and irritable beast!!! He had my total and full respect... ;) Did take a few photos of that fellow as a reminder.

I worked with a vet 2 years ago who was nearly killed by a Holstein Fresian heifer in the yards right in front of me. I am not going to mess with Lion, Tiger, Hippo or Grizz. A good friend hunted Polar bear. The full mount stands in his office on a rock striking the air. I am keeping a healthy distance from them too... haha

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2005, 04:25:46 PM »
J&R Outfitters in Florida offer hunts for 3 varieties of Asian Water Buffalo. I recently watched a hunt for them on the tv show "Hunting 201." Trophy fees are up to $4000, and a daily hunt fee of $250.
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