well its not pretty but i did pu wholes in a card. i didn't have the ammo my gun like on hand when i went shooting yesterday so i just used some barnes shot two groups and sent the best one. i wish i would of had 3 remingtons (just my luck only had two) i know i would of done better. just before last deer season i put three shots in the same whole @75yards, i brag caz its the best i've done in my life, but at 12 dollars a box and the only place that sells them being an hour away i just said oh well and put some barnes down the tube.