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Offline New Hampshire

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« on: May 28, 2004, 06:12:52 AM »
Well I was planning on using the CVA Mountain Rifle I got to get me through this deer season and then get the 209x50 bbl for my Encore for future deer seasons.  But now Im thinking of staying traditional (or at least cap lock as some peoples idea of "traditional" varies a bit.)  So what has really caught my eye is the Lyman deer stalker.  Does anyone here hunt with one?  Im not sure what I want, the 50 or 54 cal.  The picture in the MidwayUSA catalog shows a tang/reciever sight.  Is this standard with the gun or an accessory that must be purchased seperate?  How is the balance?  I know that the one complaint about my CVA is that, probably due to the long bbl, it does not balance very well.  Its very muzzel heavy.  I am very happy about the price too.  It is right in the same range as a new Encore 209 bbl would be (actually cheaper if you add on the needed accessories for the Encore bbl.)  
So, is this gun worth looking at?  I dont know for sure, but I believe Lyman has a fairly good rep. with their BP guns, true?
Any additional input is welcomed.
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2004, 10:01:22 AM »
I have the gpr and the hunter barrel as a dropin. They are in .54 cal. and I am very happy with them. They are a little heavy though. But then I am 65 Yr. Old.
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2004, 10:42:02 AM »
NH -

My CVAMR is a mid 70's 45, but I think it hangs very well and it shoots like the dickens.   Ought to be a tiny bit heavier than your 50, so surprised yours is muzzle heavy for you.

Never shot the LDS, but do like the "feel" of my 54 Renegade alot.   Its only available in 50 now days I think though.   Might be another option similar to the LDS to consider.

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2004, 12:25:26 PM »
No I don't own one, but I own it's cousin. (Cabelas by investarms)..

  First off it dosen't come with the peep,,it say's "shown with optional Lyman 57sl",,(add $70-80), it's a good peep and worth the money but the rifle comes stock with an adjustable rear wide "V" style. If you can use open sights,,these are about as good as they get.

  The Deer Stalker is a shallow groove iron bore 1-48. With the 24" barrel it's best suited as a "brush gun",,,, with proper load development,(aka; shoot a bunch too learn your gun! and listen to experiance.), it can shoot ball or heavy Maxi/Minnie ball with 1" MOA out too 75 yards out of box. Beyond that an experianced ml shooter could probably improve groups, but it takes dedication and advanced tuneing.(spl?)

  The Lyman coil spring lock is strong, quick and very reliable and has little history of needing replacement,,the DSDT triggers are great, although due to liability issues,, the front trigger adjustment screw is a bit short,,if you like a "hair" trigger you'll need to replace that screw (get a longer one for $2).

 The snail breech design is a good one,easy to clean,but the factory nipp's are a bit lame,,another $5 here. They do accept GM I.B.S. barrels,,so your future caliber choices are many. Given the 15/16 inch OD of the octagon barrel,the .54 will be lighter than the .50,,,,,

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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2004, 01:02:17 PM »
I have one and love it. It is about the best handling rifle  I own, and shoots great too. 2" groups at 80 yards is no problem with a .495 ball and 15 th pillow ticking patch. It also shoot bullets up to 360g, I even tried paper patching the Lee Minni bullet and got 2" groups as well. I just picked up the Lyman peep and think it is well worth the cash. If all you want to hunt is deer, go with the .50 cal. If you plan on going after bigger game, go with the .54.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2004, 03:00:25 PM »
Thanks guys.  Yes, Im only planning on hunting deer.  Ranges sound right as here in New Hampshire most shots are well within 100 yards and usually average no more than 25.  I think Ill do the 50 as I realized Ive already got all the accoutrements for 50 cal.  I guess Ill have to get the sight as suggested.  I preffer the peep sights anyways over the traditional post and groove.  Ive been thinking, and it looks like I could even work this thing out and have it for around my birthday which means I could use it THIS deer season  :grin: .
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