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Dry Firing questions..
« on: June 11, 2004, 04:50:12 AM »
1. Will Dry firing say around 50 times per day hurt an Anschutz? I tried placing an empty last night but it ended up being deformed and I wanted to make sure and not damage anything. What is the best method to protect the gun for long term dry firing?

2. 10M Air rifle silhouette targets (paper). I have some that are scaled for 10 meters. I shot these last night and with my scoring system I shot close to my real score that I shot the night before in our weekly match. What I did was this. If the trigger breaks while the dot is IN the black and Still in the black during follow through it's a hit, if not it's a miss. If you are swinging through, you will never get a hit. IT took me 3-4 shots to get the hang of it, but by the final bank of animals I had a decent follow through. Good / Bad idea? Any opinions welcome.

3. Any other ideas for dry-firing practice would be welcome.


I don't have an air rifle yet and I'm not so sure that I'm going to make that leap. I bought my 1712 to shoot in both dicplines and therefore it makes more sense to me to dry-fire practice with it rather than with an entirely different rifle (i.e. air or etc.). I know one day I will get an air set-up, right now what I would like is some feedback on how to be productive during practice and not get bored with it.

Thanks,

George

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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2004, 05:10:22 AM »
For dry firing ,I would get some .22 snap caps.  You can pick them up from lots of different places.  They are a lot easier to load than an empty and also hold-up a lot better than an empty case.

For practice, I took this idea from a silhouette magazine story years ago.  I can't remember who came up with the idea but here it goes.  I took a plastic disposable plate and cut the center out of it.  This gives you a circle with about a 4 inch diameter.  I then took this plate and stuck it out on a fence post about 60 meters away.    I would then try to keep my crosshairs in the circle and dryfire.  Once I could reasonably stay with in the circle, I cut the circle down to a 3 inch diameter and dry fired.  Then I cut it down to a 2 inch diameter.  Needless to say that this dry firing technique was the only practicing I could do, and at my first match of the season I was shooting Masters scores,  much different from the AA ranking that I was in.

This same concept can be used at closer range,  you will just need to start with a smaller dot or circle, and keep cutting it down to size.

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Re: Dry Firing questions..
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2004, 04:04:55 PM »
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Anschutz is selling "dry firing pin" for their rifles,
now I have to read the rest........
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Re: Dry Firing questions..
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2004, 04:11:41 PM »
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whaaaat?
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enjoy your shooting, and when it gets borred, then quit, do not force yourself too much.
the whole idea about your dry fire is to practice your follow throgh and get the feel of the trigger.  It is a good way of practice.
I am not a fan of it, but from time to time I like to see how my follow is doing and thats when I try it - especially in HP
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2004, 04:49:11 PM »
"Whaaaaat??"

RE:
2. 10M Air rifle silhouette targets (paper). I have some that are scaled for 10 meters. I shot these last night and with my scoring system I shot close to my real score that I shot the night before in our weekly match. What I did was this. If the trigger breaks while the dot is IN the black and Still in the black during follow through it's a hit, if not it's a miss. If you are swinging through, you will never get a hit. IT took me 3-4 shots to get the hang of it, but by the final bank of animals I had a decent follow through. Good / Bad idea? Any opinions welcome.


I was saying that I am using a 10M airfirle silhouette silhouette target for practice. It's Silhouetes scaled for 10 Meters and I am shooting at it at 10 meters. IT has 1 bank of 5 of each animal. Just like with real targets Pigs are the easiest to "hit" and turkeys are the hardest. Just want other opinions on how people are practicing using dry firing... Hard to get time to go to the range, would like to practice somehow...

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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2004, 06:23:12 AM »
sorry,
were I got confused was your scoring system and i was not sure if you dry or life fire, but now when the smoke cleared.....
you are doing everything right, most of us have 10 meters aviable in our homes, unless you are like Dave .... then you probably have your own air strip in the basement below your livingroom....

good luck to you and keep up the good work!
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2004, 03:23:21 AM »
Here is the link to the reg page

http://home.comcast.net/~fbray11/reg.html

Troy Lauton is who I was speaking of, William Motl said he was comming, I was told Massey was if I'm not mistaken, People are assuming Zander and Everheart will be there, I don't remimber what Cathy plans were, I would assume Jerry Turo(sp) and the guys from LA will be there, there are a cpl of other matser shooters from our club, Austin from our club (ajj here) fired a 34 up last week in hunter I believe, should be some good competion. I'll calll Frank later and see if I have mis-stated anyone and who I have left out...


George

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2004, 03:44:00 AM »
George: I have the arigun setup in the garage and I sometimes think the fun of actually being able to shoot keeps me from doing more of the  dryfire and holding drills I should be doing. Just save a handful of spent cartridges, feed one in from the magazine with the left index finger as a guide and click it three or four times before you extract and turn it. Yes, this is kinda tedious but the REAL point is to handle the rifle and get into position and try the trigger almost every day (with a day off, at least, every week.) Five or ten minutes is fine, as long as it's regular and frequent. You might even try that trigger dry firing with the striker down. Mine works fine for that. The second stage feel isn't quite the same as it "breaks" but you sure see the difficulty, I mean "challenge" of following through when there's no striker fall to distract you.
The plastic .22 snap caps I tried didn't last very long.
The airgun is really a long term deal. On one level, it does tend to make you think that you're only learning to shoot the airgun. Then, a couple of years down the road, you realize it's really helped. I would love to hear from some of the more experienced folks about practice drills with airgun.
As you know, I'm not exactly threatning the match winners but I think it's my mind holding me back now. I truly feel that airgun has taught me fundamental skills I couldn't (wouldn't) have learned any other way and that when I figure out how to unleash them, watch out! Most of the same things can be learned dryfiring but most of us just aren't disciplined enough to dryfire six days a week for years. The appeal of the airgun is that it gives us feedback from a target DAILY. Until we find a way to make handling the rifle part of our daily lives, we're going to be on the old plateau. It may be a pretty high plateau for the talented few but shooting a match a week is going to stop making us better at some point (about two years into the sport I'd say.)
And then there's mental training...

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2004, 03:57:20 AM »
Yo, George: We were typing at the same time.
Troy Lawton is, I think, going to try to make it. Since you haven't met Jerry Tureau, he may forgive you for misspelling his name. Jerry, we missed you at Winnsboro.
Don't go telling folks I'm a master. If I ever make it I'll probably brag about it here.

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2004, 06:18:53 AM »
I have shot with Jerry probably 5-6 times both at our range and LA, I think he may have made it to FL this year if I'm not mistaken. When I make master I will shoot him for the vest he wears, "Cest bo... how ever the heck you spell that cajun spice of life thing.... Sadly though I do spell on roughly the same level as I shoot... Heck, there is even a spell check button at the botom, no excuse.

When I re-read what I typed I see how you may have came to the conculsion I said you were in master, I was trying to convey that there will be some real shooters there, not just "dead money", Ha-ha.

Ps> You have roughly 90 days to make master, I don't think it will take 1/2 of that for at least hunter...

George

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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2004, 08:26:38 AM »
GeoNLR,

That is sest pon, and it is referance to my shooting, both stink. Jerry wears it to hack me off, it works.

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2004, 10:59:37 AM »
We were hoping for it to be more of a "surprise" that you would be there rather than an official part of the promotion...

If you would like I will petition the advisory committee to include your name and likeness in the associated fanfare and all future promotion material???

Geo

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2004, 11:48:44 AM »
Genphideaux, what you haven't made Master yet! you old bagger.   Hey did you figure out that Magic trick with the two stage hunter trigger yet? ...LOL   Are you going over to Raton for the Nationals?

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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2004, 02:48:53 AM »
in order:

GeoNLR,

I kinda like the surprise part, unexpected like my shooting. If frank is part of the committe I'm done, he'll put east monroe on me.

Hornetx60,

master only if it involves bait, trick is pay $1000 bucks, then screw it down till it is a single stage, won't make nationals, work commitments. See you in ark?

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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2004, 02:08:51 PM »
Dead dawg, Nah I probably won't make Ark. after driving out to the Nationals. ......and what do you mean by work commitments we all know you work for the gov. and they don't do a damned thing anyway so how would they know you where gone?   LOL    OK  When is the match in Ark.?  Hornet

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2004, 02:02:06 AM »
Hornetx60,

the 18-19 of sept., go to benton gun club link above for entry form. I worked for ten min. this year a new record plan on sick leave now for the stress incurred.

dawg