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« on: June 19, 2004, 06:27:12 PM »
Well here are the (sort of) final shots.  remember this is/was a prototype.  It needs some minot tweeks and some not so minor tweeks.

This thing is WAY adjustable and usable as is, but needs refinements such as nylon washers in certain places to prevent paint scraping (ouch).

I need to re-do the type of nut that the length adjustment knob screws into.  It seems once painted clearances are tighter and this is a pain to adjust.  The nut I used has a flat flange on the INSIDE of the tubing, but it makes it too tight once painted.  I'll have to cut it out and weld a regular flange nut on the outside, like the level adjusters.

The mian tube could be shorter.  Seems I made it a bit too long.  Good I guess if one shoots a REALLY LONG gun.

The red you see is plastic dip I used to coat the parts that touch (or might touch) the gunstock.

Anyway here are some pics.  Advice, suggestions and comments welcome.


In lowest position,  (My 223 Ultra)



In full elevated position.



The works!



The works from the rear!



With sons' Remington 700 on board.



Another view.
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2004, 06:30:25 PM »
This thing could actually be about 3" shorter for best use with the Handi.  Gotta do that for the next one.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2004, 08:01:48 PM »
Not to criticize but it appears to me the "elevation adjustment" should be on the rear near where the buttstock cradle is. Looks like it would be hard to get precision adjustment looking thru the scope and reaching all the way around front to get to the adjustment. Looks real good. :D
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2004, 08:02:46 PM »
Looks sharp.
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2004, 08:07:31 PM »
Please disregard my first post, after looking it over I see where you can fine tune the elevation after the first one gets you in the ballpark. I'm gettin old and it's getting late and I musta had a brain fart. :D  :D  :D
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2004, 08:44:20 PM »
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No biggie.  Easy to miss and that was a concern when I dreamed up the design for main elevation.

I think the eleveating arm AND the main tube below it need to be shorter by 2-3".  In full up position, the elevating assembly only travels about half of the total length of possible travel.  It doesn't need to go higher, but it would be nice to make it all a bit shorter to properly position a Handi.

I may need to re-build this thing to make it right.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2004, 09:05:33 PM »
Handirifle:

No matter what...it's looking purty durn good right now...


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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2004, 03:15:11 AM »
Looks nice Handi! I'd like to  get on your list! Other than not having a pull out tray that holds a sandwich and a pop... :)  looks good!....instead of the t-handle in front for elevation......stub it for chucking to a dewalt reversable drill......power elevation adjustment.. :roll:  :grin:
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2004, 06:13:30 AM »
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instead of the t-handle in front for elevation......stub it for chucking to a dewalt reversable drill......power elevation adjustment..


Hmmmmmmm!
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2004, 07:52:53 AM »
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instead of the t-handle in front for elevation......stub it for chucking to a dewalt reversable drill......power elevation adjustment..


Hmmmmmmm!
:-D  I hope ya know I was only funnin ya Handi...
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2004, 04:48:09 PM »
But it seemed like such a good idea!
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2004, 05:49:36 PM »
Handirifle, After you build about 5 or 6, making adjustments,
redesigning, you'll get get real good at building the rifle rest.
looks real good to me. although it looks little long for handi rifles.
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2004, 06:19:41 PM »
Marv
I agree. Tomorrow it get shortened by 3" specifically for the Handi's, but it will easily accomodate longer rifles still.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2004, 03:58:33 AM »
Handi, since you're not planning on selling them, any chance you could post the dimensions?  

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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2004, 05:14:22 AM »
I posted  PM to Graybeard.  If he feels this is a commercial venture (which means I for sure won't sell them), then I'll post all you need.  As soon as he replies.

One of the other posters requested I contact Graybeard on this so I did.  If I have to advertise I couldn't sell it to you guys that cheap and that was the whole idea, to sell at cost, factoring in the lobor.
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2004, 12:24:33 PM »
Well It's 3" shorter now and waiting for the paint to dry.  MSP I'll post some details for ya or PM them to you.  Need to assemble it and measure.

Graybeard replied like I figured he would.  It's commercial.  If the ad costs are not TOO much I might still be able to do it, but at higher cost.  Not sure if anyone wants to go that route though.

Not sure how much more, depends on ad costs and if I have to set up a web site etc.  I don't really want to go that route again.  Did it before and it can be a time consuming pain.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2004, 02:54:29 PM »
Thanks Handirifle, It is looking real good. I guess in a little while I'll have to get the welder out and fired up. I do feel bad that you did all the work on designing and all, will you feel better if I name it after you if I do make one? "The Handirifle Rest"!!!....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2004, 04:28:34 PM »
MSP ha!  That's a good one.  Do as you please.
Some of the details are as follows.

The main section, the "T", is made of 1 1/4" sq X 1/8" tubing.  The rest of the pieces are 1"sq X 1/8".  I'm at work so I cannot give out all the lengths right now.

The center main tube is 12" long.  The cross main tube should be 14" long.  I say should be cause mine is 13" (don't ask why) and I feel 14 will work out better and not be too long.  The tubes are square cut and butt welded together.  I have some aluminum picture frame corner clamps that I use to hold it all in alignment and tack weld as much as possible before removing the clamps.

The adjustment bolts are cut from all thread rod.  I THINK the front ones are 6" total length, and the rear one is 5", those are 5/16" rod.  The main screw for the elevation is made from 3/8" thread rod.  The handles (except for the clamp for length adjustment) are made fron 1/2"1/2" square tubing.  I drilled the appropiate size hole and used the same clamps to align them, then welded all around it.  The nuts are grade 5 flange nuts, spot welded onto the tubing.  Make sure you drill those holes larger than the bolt.  Ie, for 1/4" bolt go at least 5/16" hole to allow for some off center placement of the nut when welding.

The one plastic handle is a 1/4" rosette handle with the appropiate 1/4" bolt pressed into it.  This was for convienience.

I use a lot of different tools to cut with, but most of the square or angle cuts are done with my Radial Arm saw using a metal cutting blade.  If you do not have this capability, no biggie just square cut everything and weld accordingly.  For instance, the 1" tubing for the rear rest had a 45 degree notch cut in it, then bent to a 90degree angle and welded.  The square cut does the same thing, but leave a few more edjes to trim and leaves an opening at the end of the tube.  No big deal.

The main adjustment screw turn in a 3/8" "T" nut (you'll need two of them), most often used for woodworking.  I flattened the barbs on it and welded it onto an "L" shapped piecs of metal with a 7/16" hole cut in it.  I also welded a piece of 1/4" thread rod under the "T" nut to hold the elevation arms onto it.

I drilled a 1/4" hole in the main elevation arm to allow the bolts for the other end of the arms to bolt to.  Use nylon washers at these points or you'll make it bind when adjusting and screw up your paint job too, trust me.

The second "T" nut goes near the front end of the thread rod through another "L" bracket that holds the thread rod in place.  This "T" is brazed in place, TO THE THREAD ROD, NOT THE "L" BRACKET.  The other end of the thread rod is held in place by the hole drilled through the verticle post that the elevation arm pivots on.  There is a nut on the end of this rod with a nylon lock ring in it to keep the clearances the same.

I used 5/16" steel rod for the rear cradle and 1 1/2" flat metal for the front.  I'd suggest to make the front at least 2" metal for better/more seating area for your sandbag.

Well that's all for now gotta get back to work.

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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2004, 04:31:50 PM »
Ya know I just thought of something that I don't think will be violating any rules.  I'd be willing to make these for trade for interesting NEF goodies :grin: :grin:

So if anyone is interested in that we can talk.
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2004, 01:59:14 AM »
handirifle, Thats a great idea except it is so hard to part with my NEF "goodies"!!! (I'm going to start looking through my stash, to see if there is anything I can part with)....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2004, 04:03:22 AM »
Something like "Take your family to the range day" :lol: .  I can trade 3 or 4 of them for that 357 rifle or 45-70 someone no longer needs :wink:  :wink:

Just a thought to ponder.
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2004, 08:36:35 AM »
nice looking rest handirifle.i made one like that some time ago.if i ever get my home computer going again or get a new one i will post a picture of mine.been useing a friends computer when i can