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Offline kevin.303

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is the 17M2 a passing fad?
« on: June 25, 2004, 06:39:34 AM »
i opened up a petersens hunting the other day and saw this. at first i thought it was just an improvment on the 17HMR. it seemed to me that whats the point? why not just buy a 17 HMR? but then it occured to me if you wanted a 10/17M2 you could use the standard 10/22 instead of buying a magnum model. how long do you think this will last. i didn't think that the 17HMR would be very popular, but after working in a sporting goods store last summer i was amazed how they couldn't keep it on the shelves. they had a limit of 2 boxes per customer.
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2004, 07:17:23 AM »
The 17M2 is to the .22Lr as is the .17hmr is to the .22 mag, The .17s are much more accurate and flat shooting than their .22 cousins and who wouldn't want a more accurate, flat shooting round? I see it going a long ways for those looking for a little more out of a rimfire. The average plinker isn't going for it in general, but there are a lot of folks out there that are really excited about this new round. At~$6 a box for ammo, it's still half the price of premium .22 ammo and shoots better. For more info check out RFC.

http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2004, 09:37:33 PM »
If there are enough guns chambered in that caliber to give shooters a variety of choices it will probably make it.  It uses the same platform as the .22 lr so we will probably see  quite a selection.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2004, 12:10:50 PM »
Hello there Shooters,

Well as to the failure or success of the 17, it is in my opinion going to be a matter of ammo cost.

In the range of 5 - 6 bucks a box, it will never be the success of the 22LR.

Yes, I have paid up close to the $10 mark for a some LR ammo but it was only when I wanted to prove a point about self and rifle. At other times I was able to shoot  with CCI blazers available as low as $.74 per box about 45 minutes from here or with some of the many loads available at a high of a bit over 2 bucks a box.

I still say, that the cost of $5 plus per box make the cost too high for too little. As a reloader, just a few bucks more will get me some real bang/velocity/range for my bucks and for just common Ol'plinking why pay a dime + per shot when I can bounce the same can for less then 2 cents.

I was only a short term fan of the 22MRF (too much for too little), and although the soon to be with us 17 markII does interest me a bit, it is really going to come down to the cost of ammo.  Bring that ammo cost down to 3 - 4 bucks a box and well, I just might (?) be a bit more then interested.

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2004, 03:59:16 PM »
I can see the .17M2 being the perfect Grackel/Starling and feral cat round.  Quieter than a .22 and more accurate.  Can't wait to get my hands on one!  (Of course it will have to be a single shot or a lever!)  How about a little Steven's Favorite?  44 Man
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2004, 06:10:55 AM »
I'm looking for one myself (Stevens would be nice)!
I have never fired a gun that wasn't fun so that is what
I want one for!  It may not be any better or worse than
the .22 LR, But simply something different!
If they Neck down the .22 short next or maybe
a .25 auto, I will want one of those too!
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thanks for more choice !!
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2004, 06:58:22 PM »
I can't see how can having a new addition to our shooting sport be anything but good. It gives us more to choose from. It didn't cost us (consumer) anything to develope and won't cost anything if we don't want to use them. When you think about all the different centerfires developed over the years; we still have a long way to go. And, when you can't change the load, ya got to change something. I am happy to see the gun industry giving more priority to the rimfire.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2004, 02:28:33 AM »
The 17HM2 17Gr V-Max bullet @2,100 FPS  sited in at 100 Yds will have the following bullet curve. 0 Yds.-1.5 ,25Yds.-0.16, 50Yds.+0.6, 75Yds+0.7, 100Yds. 0.0., 125Yds -1.62, 150Yds-4.31 inches.  The 22LR would be about +2.75 inches high at 50Yds and 11.06 low at 150 Yds. At 100 Yds the energy is about the same for the 22LR and 17HM2.  I`ll use the 22 LR for plinking but for shooting small game and small varmints the 17HM2 should out preform the 22 LR. There  is a day limit on small game so the cost in ammo for the 17HM2 is meaningless.  The flatter shooting round for spring prairie dog pups will be worth the extra cost. Less range estimating errors with the 17HM2 equals moore hits per rounds fired. I`v ordered 20 boxes from Mid South -back ordered to Sept. Ordered a Cooper LVT - dont know when I`ll get it, but it should be in for 2005 spring prairie dog shooting but it would be nice to have it for this fall rabbit and squirrel hunting.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2004, 12:39:51 PM »
Ive asked myself this same question every since i first read about this round......and im still undicided.
as a small game and small varmit round a necked down .22lr to .17 would be ideal.
so my vote is it will survive.......even if it is just wishful thinking!!!

TCB
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2004, 03:32:37 AM »
Well said Stilly!
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2004, 06:56:46 AM »
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you could use the standard 10/22

Well that may or may not be true as it turned out a Teck from CCI posted on RFC that a new bolt will be needed to keep it safe in a 10/22 so you may not see a simi handgun soon.

WBH
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2004, 08:46:50 AM »
My local dealer has strict orders to get me the first T/C Classic in 17HM2 that he can get his hands on.  I think it will make the perfect squirrel rifle for the tall open woods where it is hard to get within 22lr range without being seen.
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