custom ak-47

[hillbill]

hey guys! im thinkin of customizeing my ak. yuall got any pics of ak's been werked over? i really want to put a nicer stock on. maybe one from ironwood or a nice synthetic.

[patm41]

which Ak do you have ?

[NRAJOE]

Yeah, what ya got? I got a Bulgarian SLR101S Milled and a Russian VEPR K RPK based with the tactical stock.

[patm41]

I have 2 Romanian Wasr-10's,, Eqyptian Maddi RML, Hungarian AMD, Polish Pkkm,and a PSL

[hillbill]

my ak is a basic romanian. have had a lot of fun with it so far but wuld like to make it a little prettier or basically more unique for the most part.

[patm41]

Here is a pic of one of my Wasr-10's with a (pinned) Underfolder stock on it

also the bolt has been polished , and a muzzle device added..

[NRAJOE]

   :wink:  :shock:  :grin:

[Robert357]

Hillbill;

" ...im thinkin of customizeing my ak."

I would suggest that you be very careful.  First of all there are few "AK's" in the U.S.   Most of what folks own are MAK's and other semi-auto's.  In modifying one of these firearms, one needs to be very very careful that one doesn't run afoul of BAFT regulations.  

If I were the ownder of a modified AK or MAK, I certainly would not recommend showing a picture of one, for fear that some BAFT agent would spot something he determined was an illegal modification.  

Until such a time as the Assualt Weapon Ban sunsets, one can get oneself in all kinds of trouble for modifying an MAK or even purchasing the wrong parts.

I may be getting a little paranoid, but this is the second post in a row that I have looked at where someone is asking for help along a grey area of the law.  

Assuming you are just a plane sportsman, then I really recommend you check with BAFT or a good gunsmith as to what modifications might be legal for you MAK or AK-semi-auto-clone.  Be very careful in your modifications so you don't run afoul of the laws.

[patm41]

Robert357
 If you are refereing the the Romanian pic i posted ,, be assured it is legal
the stock is pinned in the open position as required by law.. Also the required number of US parts are installed to make it compliant...

As far as I know.. no one has ever been arrested by the BATF for having a non compliant gun... that is a semi auto that has the stocks changed out

The BATF main concern on these type rifles are people who convert them to full auto.. its a very simple to do with a AK variant,, and the Fa parts are available from lots of distributers ..

99.5 % of the AK owners have legal rifles and are law abiding gun owners
its that .5% who makes the trouble fro the rest of us..

The media is no help , to them every AK variant is a illegal FA weapon
and the sure know how to twist a story to make all AK's illegal weapons.

[Robert357]

While I don't have an AK-clone (although I haven't figured out what I will purchase when the AWB sunsets soon) I do have a couple of SKS rifles and have heavily and legally modified one of them.

Yes, BAFT can be a paper tiger, but at times they also do enforce the darnest things.  I just wanted to make sure that this thread had some "caution" thrown into it, so nobody got in trouble.  

Your Romanian AK-clone looks quite impressive and legal.

Part of the problem with many state laws and the federal AWB is that they make things illegal based on cosmetic differences that can be violated when someone starts making modifications.  I thought it important that the person posting understand that they should be careful.  I think the federal AWB and many state companion laws are just plan silly if not discusting.

[Mikey]

Robert357 and patm41 - fellas you both have good points that should be heeded in strong regard, especially with regard to the enforcement efforts of the BATF - no sense in inviting problems, either individually or for the overall website.

hillbill - you have posted here before and have always been welcomed.  That has not changed.  However, you need to know that in some states and for some firearms, changes made to rifle stocks such as the addition of pistol grips or other modifications may be illegal in your state, or anywhere due to some fo the funkier laws promulgated during the klinton regime.  

I do not doubt that you dislike having to deal with federal authorities as much as any of us do but I would advise you to check with your local BATF office to determine what is legally acceptable with your proposed modifications.  I will ask Greybeard to determine the same.

Once we can determine what we can legally advise you to do then you will have our full support but until then I would ask other posters to hold their responses until this determination is made.  Thanks for your concerns.  Mikey.

[NRAJOE]

LIST OF PARTS FOR YOUR POSTBAN
THAT QUALIFY AS USA MADE

§ 178.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

(c) For purposes of this section, the term "imported parts" are:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8 ) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18 ) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates

[NRAJOE]

Hillbill, as long as you use a synthetic stock set made in the US ( K-VAR) or the ironwood stocks which are US made you will be alright. I have 2 AK's now and have had 6 of them...any questions PM me.

[NRAJOE]

Hillbill, check your PM's.....