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« on: June 29, 2004, 06:49:20 PM »
Hey Guys and Gals,

What’s your age? 30 years here. I ask because I be damned if I see anyone my age at the range or in the local gun shops. A lot of younger guys here hunt and own guns for hunting purposes but I don’t see anyone close to my age at the shooting range just enjoying a variety of firearms. There doesn’t seem to be anyone carrying on the legacy? Is this the same in your area? I enjoy shooting and jawing with anyone at the range regardless of their age, but it’s a shame not to see the younger generation around here getting involved. There are probably 150-200 members of the range where I shoot and I must be the youngest by about 12-15 years. I’m just curious. And curious as to why the younger fellows aren’t out there.

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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2004, 05:20:37 AM »
TscottO,
Here I am scott, Have you been missing me ? Seriously you have a point.
I have noticed the same thing and its a damned shame. I can't think of any thing that was more Important to me as a young man than my hunting and shooting and outgoods activities. I brought my son up to be a hunter, trapper and wouldent think of doing any thing different---- what are we doing wrong that more young people are not here with us ????
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2004, 05:43:23 AM »
Like I always say to people, bring a young boy or girl to the range shooting or hunting or even fishing, Keep the tradition going. I love the gleam in there eye's after they shoot a gun,they never forget it, introduce them into a great sport, I agree I have not seen many young shooters or hunters, as much as when I was a youngster, I'm 43 years old, been hunting since I was eight years old, once I got the bug I never stopped, look forward to the hunting seasons and scouting. Enjoy going to the range, doing more hunting and shooting than ever before, older now, got more time on my hands, just work four days a week & my kids are grown up doing there own thing ;) I just love to see youngsters having a ball shooting,fishing, brings me back when I did that with my father, Good memorys I will never forget. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2004, 05:50:25 AM »
The younger guys are out there chasing women. Just kidding. I'm 30 myself and love to go to the range. Buying a pistol, ammo, cleaning supplies, etc can get somewhat expensive. I get to the range as much as I can. I too don't mind talking to fellow range members.

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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2004, 06:10:52 AM »
Thye get their kicks doing their shooting with video games. Automatic fire, high cap mags, no real accuracy needed, bag guys(or in some games good guys) always go down, cars explode when hit, no recoil, no burned powder smell, no cleaning when done, no buying ammo.
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2004, 03:43:34 PM »
There you are oso45-70. Yes I miss you and I thought I’d been hiding it so well.

It’s sad but true… I feel these days many of the younger people are raised to be educated about firearms from the media, the gvt and negative publicity. What’s worse is that parents don’t seem to be guiding them in the right direction.

I sure hope to see things take a turn for the better. The fewer peers we have the less defense we will have against the others in the future. As few as 60 years ago guns were almost a necessity of life and now for most people they are just a hobby. With culture change we lose ground.

I’ll get off my soap box now. Thanks for the replies everyone.

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2004, 03:56:56 PM »
I'm 36.  Unfortunately I have noticed the birthdays at these forums and I usually see most are older than me also.  Around here there aren't as many younger people getting into shooting or hunting.  I don't know what the future will hold if more people my age and younger don't support the sport.  I too am one of the youngest at my range and that feels awkward.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2004, 04:14:47 PM »
I am 34 and when I moved to Houston from Louisiana, I moved to the wrong side of the city for joining the shooting clubs.  The closest is 45 minutes away.  I am happily married and have 3 small children.  Priorities change and I do not get to hunt or shoot anywhere near the amount I want to.

Ask the guys at work or your friends to go to the range with you.  I left my best shooting buddy in Louisiana and that is only an 1-1/2 hour drive to his private range.  It is a wonderful day trip when I make it.  I was informed that I need to spend more time with the kids, so the trips are few and far between.  Ask around, you're bound to find someone to share this wonderful hobby with.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2004, 04:59:02 PM »
i would hazard the opinion that shooting is less exciting for a young person than hunting... it would also be my guess that most shooters come out of the hunting community rather than vice versa, so shooters will be, on the average, older... i'm 27 and don't particularly enjoy shooting, but i've put my girlfriend through hunters safety and in addition, introduced 3 new hunters to the sport...

it's been my experience that most kids would give hunting a try, if the opportunity is presented to them...

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2004, 01:36:16 PM »
31 here. I see the same problem at the range too. The IPSC matches are no different either. If we don't start bringing the youngsters over to the dark side we are going to be extinct. I am corrupting my son, are you?

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2004, 01:42:15 PM »
Gonna be 25 this Sept.  I started shooting just for fun too.  Bought a Sig 220 to plink with at the range.  Along came a Ruger 10/22 and Ruger GP100......and then the hunting bug kicked in.  I still generally go to the range to plink with my Uncle.  Even though its infirmal shooting it helps my hunting shooting that much better.  Lotsa 22 LR makes for sharper and better hits with the 30-06.  Since I handload I do have the serious time alone at the range testing (and now Chronying,) loads.  But nothing better than going down on a nice day plinking with the Uncles AR, SKS, my 22 and handguns.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2004, 02:59:35 PM »
I am 21. I have been shooting since I was 5. My Dad bought me a Marlin 22 lever action. I must have shot thousands of rounds thru it. I still have it today, It looks as new as the day Dad bought it. My brother had one too, we would shoot cans, cereal boxes, and anything else that would be laying around. Where we grew up in Ohio is was easy to walk out on the front porch and shoot in any direction without any doubt that it was safe. No houses for a mile or so. Eventually more guns followed, and I was allowed to go out on my own with my gun and a few rounds, maybe I would come back with a rabbit or squirrel. I joined the Air Force and am now stationed in Arizona. The day I turned 21 I went to the gun store and bought my first Ruger pistol. I sold it a few months back to buy an H&K USP Compact. I took the H&K to get my Arizona Concealed Weapons Lisense. I take my friends to the range but they dont like to shoot paper, they like to shoot cans and other trash. You can't have that freedom at a shooting range.

Maybe all the young shooters are out shooting cans
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2004, 03:47:59 PM »
33 here, My buddy I hunt with is 31 or 32, another guy is 34, his friend is late 20's.  The Sunday before the opening day of deer season, I get together with my friends and family from back home to have some bow taken venison and swap stories.  10 of us from 28 to 35 years old.  all with young kids that will probably be future hunters.  Other than that, The few I mentioned in the beginning are the young pups at the sportsmens club we belong to and shoot at.  And I have taken people from work shooting.  They all ahve fun but dont seem interested enough to start a new hobby.  Oh well, if they had good safe fun, they will not be anti gunners.
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2004, 07:08:42 PM »
I am going to have to agree with ABaker on alot of what he said.  I too have been shooting since I was young, and been doing it ever since.  My dad is a policeman in my hometown, so I got the chance as a youngster to shoot at their indoor range.  Along those same lines, I am afforded the oportunity to shoot at the range we have set up at my house...it's just a matter of stepping around the corner of the house, and setting up on the bench.  Uncle Sam let's me shoot the m9 at his range for free at least once a year for the army guard.  When I'm at college, I do however have to use a public range, and I for one don't like it too well.  It's short range(25 meter), and allows anything but centerfire rifles(which is really one passion I have alot...especially for groundhogs).  I bought a 44 mag. recently to use for deer season this year in Ohio, so I'm sure that the range at school will see alot more use.  Like most people, I too talk/B.S. with people at the range...it allows me the opportunity to speak with some great people, and alot of the time, we end up trading off guns for a couple shots(great fun if you've never tried their choice before).  This past year, a middle aged man, and his two young sons showed up when I was using a 22 revolver, and I let the boys split the amount of shots pretty much down the middle(a 9 shot revolver).  Anyways, the younger one shot more to the center at 7 yds than his brother....that's bragging rights for you(they were maybe 5 and 7)!!!  I don't really know why their isn't more younger folks though....maybe it's the media, maybe alot more live in the city and are removed from the need/have a use for a firearm....who know's?

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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2004, 12:47:40 AM »
48 here is that young enough. It sure dont feel like it :)  I do my part though I have two grandsons that i take along whenever i can and they allready have guns of there own in the safe.  When they come to visit theres minibikes to ride but the first thing they want to do is shoot the .22s. My best freind AL has a 6 year old little girl thats pretty enough to be a model and she doesnt want to leave the house without her bearcat and shoots it as well as alot of grown men.  So dont leave the little girls out of it too. Maybe it would be the best way to get little boys into it :-D  Had to laugh at the women chasing thing I have a young parterner at work he really likes guns ive even talked him into buying a few sixguns but it seems like everytime we plan to get together and do a little shooting at some steel wood gets in his way 8) Oh well ive been there too.
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2004, 09:38:49 AM »
well i know for one thing a lot of the gun clubs around pgh at least are not to friendly about leting younger shooters join
im 29 now when i was 18-20 myself an 4 friends went around looking to join a club, about 7 out of 10 dident want any thing to do with us
i mean most of them wouldent even give us a tour of ther places
now before every one starts thinking about yeah 5 younger guys walken on to a club to join i wouldent let them eather
we pull up in a buick an a caty.  3 of us wanted to shoot trap with 1k-3k browning an beretta shotguns an they look at us like were trying to steal from them or some thing, all so at least im hearing a lot is that  when you join a club now they want ther year fee plus like 80$ more for just an inesheasion fee  man i spelled that one way wrong lol
then you go to the local free gun rangs you got every monkey an moron ther that has no respect for any thing an dont know the first role for gun safty at all
so at least in the parts of pgh im from i can see why no younger shooters are being seen
it tock me 8 years to finaly find a half way decent club
then on top of all that most of these clubs want you to know a member all ready to get sponcered so if you dont ther gos you geting in ther club so thers a lot of reasions behind the lose of more shooters every year

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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2004, 08:39:15 PM »
Well I can't say for down ther , but In Canada I shoot Handgun and rifle here. I have to belong to a club so I can shoot my handgun (22), but it really isn't much fun cause they seem to be kinda anal on bringing guests and such. If I lived in the US I can say without a doubt I would definately shoot out in a field rather than at a range any day.
Here range fees are about 140 -165 CAN which aren't that bad but I would rather spend that on a case of 22 shells.
I like shooting aal the guns I ever had I just wish we had a tad more freedom to do safely, but on our own.
Btw I am 28 yrs old. I have a lever action 22 rifle, 22 ruger revlover,and a 12 ga Iver johnson single shot coming. I am thinking hard about a .357 lever, a .270 bolt, and a handful of other handguns....possibly a 22/45 ruger and a blackhawk (357/9mm).
I tihink it is politics that scares away alot of younger people here....It's a shame. I am however trying to get some younger poeple to try out some of my guns when I can.
Anyway good topic ,but I am rambling again.... :oops:  :D

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2004, 09:47:09 PM »
:cb2: No kids of my own, but I have a 20+ nephew who will shoot with me when I come to visit sometimes, but he's mostly interested in cars. He just put a 450 HP engine in a Toyota. (That's like one of us going hunting with a tank.)

I see a few young guys at the range, but usually a couple of them will show up with a new 9mm automatic, shoot a couple of boxes through it and leave about 10 minutes later with a target that looks like a shotgun pattern. ("Yeah, I hit the target [paper]. What are the circles for?")

At least I haven't seen any holding the gun sideways yet!
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2004, 04:12:51 AM »
Old farts just have more time to go shooting. I do see quite a few women and young guys shooting where I shoot.
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2004, 04:42:29 AM »
I'm 47, so I guess I qualify as an Olphart.  I have four kids, 12 to 22, and all are shooters.  The boys are more gung-ho about it, but the girls can still shoot well when they get a little practice in.  My honey even asked me why my youngest and I always go shooting, instead of playing catch or golf or something.  I just laughed at her and shook my head.  

If you want to insure the future of the shooting sports, the key is to get the women involved.  A male-only sport is okay, but a sport where boys and girls can compete on an equal footing is a lot more fun.  A game of catch with the family is okay, too, but I like it better when I open the gun locker and everyone grabs their favorite bullet launcher.

And as cute as my daughters are, they look even better with a holstered revolver on.  You ought to see the respect they get from their boyfriends when the girls outshoot them!  Makes the old man proud. :lol:

I just hope when I'm old and feeble, the kids will want to go shooting on their own, and not need me to "encourage" them.  One way to help make that happen is to get them their own guns, and make sure they are a good fit.  I got my honey a Marlin 357 for Christmas, and every time I tell her it's time to shooting, she lights up like a neon sign.  (She's 23, so I guess you could call it Youth Training  :roll: )  Oh yeah, every time I tell her we're going shooting, she sends me to the loading bench to make sure we have enough ammo.  The girl does know my weaknesses!

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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2004, 07:37:40 AM »
The age demographics in economics plays a part, at least with me.  I'm 47 years old, a member of a gun club, no kids, or wife.  Lots of time for the hobby.  But, when I was in my 20's I was so poor working as a security guard, janitor, or auto mechanic, I could only afford the cheap black powder guns, beat up surplus rifles, and cheap .22's.  It made it a challenge to really enjoy the hobby.

Now, with my greater education, (accounting) and job experience, I have been buying very nice and expensive guns, I spent thousands of dollars last year alone to replace my fleet.  They shoot well, good to excellent fit and finish, it is fun to shoot a bunch of nice looking high quality guns, not cheap disappointing junk.

When you are young, the car, guns, boat, vacations, etc. just are not as nice as when you get into your prime earning years.  Also, lots of us were full-time college students worried about eating.  I think alot of 20 somethings could afford a gun like a Ruger GP 100 or a Smith and Wesson revolver, but with only one gun, that gets old.

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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2004, 09:54:06 AM »
Got my 19yr. old daughter hooked when I bought her a new pair of shooting glasses and eye muffs...then applied rhinestones to them.  They shimmer like the evening sky.   Her buddies think their the "the bomb"!   :-D   Whatever it takes...

Just bought her (me) a new SS Vaquero with the faux pearl handle grips...now she's hooked for life.  Looks like we'll be spending more quality time togehter at the range...not bad 'eh?

Wonder if my young bride (of 26 years) might go for one of those new Ruger 17HMR's....hmmm?   :)

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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2004, 08:11:51 PM »
I'll be 32 on the 18th of this month.  My 32 year old wife is an avid shooter, and NRA member to boot.  I'm a life time NRA member myself, and I've belonged to several shooting clubs.  Right now, I belong to one that's only 10 minutes from my home, and it's 400 yards to the far end of the rifle range, so it's a hoot.  My dad started taking me hunting when I was 3 years old, and my daughter started going a little younger than that.  She's 4 now, almost 5, and she has her own BB gun.  In a couple of years, she'll have her first .22LR.  My 1 year old son is named Henry, after the first practical lever design, and he's happy to wear kid-sized ear protection while dad makes noise with the guns, so I expect he'll grow up in the shooting tradition, too.

Don't despair, there are a number of us that are trying to secure the future of America's traditions.  

Many of us young 'uns don't reveal our age for a very simple reason.  Age, rather than intelligence or experience, is sometimes used as a deciding factor in online debates.  Some of us choose not to reveal our youth, because our contributions will be dismissed without fair consideration.  Most of the guys in gun forums are not guilty of this, but some do make a point of saying, "I've been blowing up S&W revolvers since before your daddy was born, so your opinion about not blowing up revolvers with untested loads means nothing to me."  After running into this sort of mentality on several other forums, I just stopped giving my age in my profile.  

It's too bad that some folks on the internet mistake age for experience, because most people are very fair.  It's much easier to spend time talking at the range, where many of the members are old enough to be retired (which makes them older than my dad).  In person, folks are almost always friendlier than on the net, and groups on paper speak for themselves.  Casting techniques, lube recipes, and loads are always welcome when the holes are close together, even from a whipper snapper like me.
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2004, 07:00:08 AM »
I see a pretty broad demographic in shooting, but most of the guys I see who shoot regularly are middle-aged. I think this is because it's an expensive hobby if you do it a lot.
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2004, 07:13:57 AM »
Many of us young 'uns don't reveal our age for a very simple reason.  Age, rather than intelligence or experience, is sometimes used as a deciding factor in online debates.  

Don't sweat it. I've seen a lot of old farts that were stupid. But I figure they can't ALL be as smart as me! :wink:
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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2004, 09:05:01 AM »
I guess us old guys just have more time on our hands than the younger crowd. I get me son to go with me, but it's like pulling teeth sometimes. He is 16 and his mado is girls then guns. :). I guess if I was 16 all over again I would be the same way. Don't get me wrong, the girl thing is nice, but you can only do that so much :) LOL.
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2004, 02:08:42 PM »
I rarely ever put how old I am when I post, especially when it's a spirited topic. Folks just don't seem to give young fellows the time of day, and they often automatically dismiss their claims. This happens in all sorts of outdoor fields, including shooting.

I love to shoot, and I do as much as I can. I'm from Kentucky, but right now I'm in NYC pursuing a life-long dream. I'm working to be an Outdoor Writer, and I'm in a second-year internship with Outdoor Life magazine. Since working for them, I've freelanced quite a few articles, including a few about hunting with handguns. I also write a hunting and fishing column for my college campus newspaper. My age doesn't appear in my bylines, but I bet if it did, folks wouldn't take them as seriously, despite the fact that I've been shooting critters with guns and bows of all sorts since I could walk. My dad showed me alot, but he's not a big gun guy (he likes them for their practicality I mean) while I like to shoot and trade them. I've taught myself alot about guns through my own trials and errors.

At home, I carry concealed on a regular basis, not because I really think I'll need it, but because I believe it's my right. I also believe that there are so many bad gun laws on the books that we should support those in our favor.

In addition, young guys, as stated before, often don't have the money to spend on new guns. My most prized handgun is my Beretta 9mm, which my Dad signed and I paid for, when I got my first job as a grounds keeper on a golf course years several years ago. It took more than a whole paycheck, but I was and still am proud of it. I use that pistol for quite a few things, even hunting at times, because I cannot afford to buy a new .500 magnum. I'm good with it, and it's never failed me. My Dad also bought me a Taurus 608 .357 that I deer hunt with quite a bit, and am quite fond of. I have a few other handguns as well, but like I say, getting to buy a new gun of any sort is a treat that I have to save for. Bills and food come first.

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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2004, 03:04:34 PM »
I hope you don't mind my $.02 from a real old "oldphart", but I think a lot of it depends on where you live. There are just to many things to do in large cities and it seems that there is a mentality that guns are bad.

 I grew up in S. Calif and live there most of my life ( except for a year in South East Asia where I got lots of rifle practice :-)  ). There was one gun range within reasonable driving distance of our home and it was packed on the weekends, plus the range master sounded more like a drill sgt.. Very few kids there and I can see why. Shooting paper is great but when you are a kid you want to see something happen, like a can fly into the air or something, not just walk down range with a bunch of old guys that probably won't even give you the time of day and look at a few hole in a target.

 A few years ago we moved to a small town in East Texas- Crockett-county seat for Houston County-pop. 7000- claim to fame-it has the only stop light in the county. They have a very active 4H club that has a trap shooting club. The local paper (during deer season) dedicates a full page to photo's of kids that have taken deer during the week (published twice a week). Some of the kids are 8 years old. There really isn't much else for the kids to do. We have no mals, no arcades, one movie houses(vintage 1930's).
 So as I said before, I think it all depends where you live, but it is alive and well in East Texas.
 BTW-I have experienced SOME of the young peoples interest in guns in L.A.. Its called a "drive by". I am not labeling all young people as gangsters and I hope no one takes afence but it sure is different out here.

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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2004, 02:42:54 PM »
I have to drive 40 minutes thru Phoenix just to get out in the Areas where it is legal to shoot. I could go to a range more, but to me it's more fun to shoot out in the country.
Go out and get yourself a Concealed Weapons License. I did. :wink: :gun4:

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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2004, 03:30:01 PM »
I grew up in a household without a father around, he was career army and my mother didn't care for the life style, we had no guns in the house. My interest in firearms was sparked when I joined the marine corps. Now, 15 years later I have a son, he is 7 months old. While he was in moms belly I went out and bought him his first rifle, a 22 cricket. Every once in a while I pull it out of the safe and let him hold it, can't wait till he is old enough to accompany me to the range, hunt, fish ect. I just want to do all of the things I missed out on with a father in my youth. I try to talk other parents into letting me take their child to the range but it can be a hard sell sometimes.