had one from DU. auction and it was set up with a scoope and it dues work extemly well for a pack gun or toset under pickup seat,it was stainless steel setup and most i shot was 75 yds, and out of 50 round 45 were in 2in sircle,and the kids actualy shot it better than i did, but it is a shorter gun and the weight difference makes it good for them and easyer to control, hope this info helps. horse.