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Offline Bug

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.25 cal Model 7???
« on: July 03, 2004, 04:27:50 AM »
Forgive me for the CRS episode, but has the Remington model 7 ever been offered in a .25 caliber? Sitting here scratching my head, and I can't think of one... The only .25 caliber now on their website is the .25-'06. If not, I wonder WHY????....................Bug.
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2004, 05:05:04 PM »
I don't believe they have.  The 257 Roberts was offered but not in the M7 and not even in a continuous production rifle..  The 250 Sav likewise.  The 25 calibers just don't seem to really find a lot of favor in the US exceppting perhaps the 25-06.  In really like the Roberts and the 250 but they are all old  timers..  Ruger offered the 250 for a time and the 257 still is in their line I believe, although I haven't looked as of late.  It's a coincidence but one of the most popular calibers for custom rifles is the 257 Roberts..go figure..
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2004, 10:38:39 AM »
The Model 7 comes with only a 20 inch barrel.  Ballistically, I don't think that the .257 Roberts, or the 25-06, can really approach their normal factory load potential in barrels this short.

   Also, I'll bet that the muzzle blast from a 25-06 out of a 20 inch barrel is horrific!

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Okay, Okay!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2004, 03:05:58 PM »
:)  :)  :)
I know that there was never a .25-'06 in the model 7! The action probably isn't long enough to eject empties! It is even shorter than the regular short action. I was wondering about the Roberts, and hadn't thought about the .250 Savage. It is just that they have them in .22-250, .243Win, 260Rem, .7mm-08, and .308Win, but not in .257, or .277. Wonder why they decided to skip those two?
 I have a model 7 that I have aquired barrels for, in all but the .260. It will come, sooner or later. I just have a pile of 25 cal. bullets & need to have something to shoot them in. I figured the Roberts would work, or shorten a sporter weight .25-'06 up & rechamber to a .25-308 (25 Souper?). Prolly won't , though. That gets into the realm of "another rifle" pricing.
BTW, Paulie. A 20'' barrel on the .25-'06 isn't REALLY that bad.  :eek:
I bought a 700 varmint special back in the 70s, that a silhouetter had chopped off & recrowned, trying to "make weight". I shot it for several years like that. Might have given up a bit of velocity to a 24", but it sure didn't lack any accuracy. I never set any fires with it either! :-D
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2004, 06:54:11 AM »
The chamberings for the Rem Mod 7 are 308 Win based. A 25 Souper is a wildcat based on the 308 Win case. It fits right between the 243 and the 260. Could be done easily. POW
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2004, 09:14:05 AM »
The 25 calibers are not well represented in any rifle line.  The 250 Savage is a fine round for the beginning shooter or anyone recoil sensitive.  The 257 Roberts also is an excellant round and is quite usable in a short action.  I haven't checked the M7 but suspect the Roberts would fit just fine.  The 25-06 and 270 Win are long action calibers and won't fit the M7.  The 277 bore has few representatives and none other than wildcats that would fit the M7.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2004, 10:20:28 AM »
Bug:  In answer to your original question, no it hasnt the closest will be the 243 from the factory at present I believe however it may be offered in a 260 now. :D    JIM
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2004, 04:49:11 AM »
Bug a similar rifle is offered by Ruger as the Ultra Light in 257 Roberts. Good luck. POW
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2004, 04:59:15 AM »
Bug just did a check at Ruger and found I gave you bad info. The Ultra Light has now been replaced in their line with a Compact. A 16 1/2" barrel and is not chambered in 257 Roberts. You would have to find a used Ultra Light (20" barrel). Ruger seems to have dropped that caliber in favor of the 260 Rem. POW
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2004, 06:42:10 AM »
:)  :)  :)
 Seriously, this was just some idle thinking, on how to get a 25 cal. barrel for my Model 7. Ideally, I'll find a 'smith with an as-new .25-06 sporter-weight barrel that is a pull-off from a 700. It could then be cut off, rechambered to Savage, Roberts, or Souper, rethreaded & screwed on my action. The only problem, is the cost gonna be overcome by the benefits? Only time, and my scrounging/dickering ability will tell. I do have a few sources in mind. I've just gotta get it in gear... Bug.
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Very doable
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2004, 07:30:56 AM »
Plenty of cast off Remington barrels out there... you can do the shorten & re-thread & re-chamber for a shorter cartridge...The cost with barrel & labor should be less than half the price of a new gun..E-bay search look for remington 700...Plenty of parts, some fancy triggers too..I picked up a 6MM varmint weight barrel to make a 6mm BR with...without reblueing it should be back to me for a total 240..I'm going to black matte spray paint this barrel to sort of match the action...If I like this cartridge the next barrel will be a custom In Stainless steel...Good luck & plan plenty of time for this job..mike in ct
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2004, 02:53:09 PM »
A .250 Ackley Improved on a Model 7 would be the Cat's Ass! That round sprays all over the 243 and with the lighter bullets keeps right up with the .25-06. I salted away a bunch of the discontinued 75gr. Barnes Xs in anticipation of building a 250AI someday.
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2004, 03:08:10 PM »
I have both the 25 Souper and the 250SAV Ack Imp both on the Rems. The 250 AI is on an old 600 action that I altered the bolt to the 700 style, added an M16 extractor and a FW barrel. The Souper is on a standard Mod 7  with much the same treatment. Both are in kevlar stocks and shoot like Hogans Goat. I have found virtually no reason to hunt with anything else around here in Or unless we go for bear. Perfectly adequate for all the elk, deer and antelope. Anyone want a pic let me know. I can`t seem to figure out the picture thing.

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.25 cal Model 7???
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2004, 05:31:30 PM »
Mark,
What kinda velocities you getting from those 25s? Is the Souper an improved case or a simple neck-down? FW=featherweight?
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