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Well, did you talk your wife into the 45-70
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2004, 12:24:54 PM »
Thanks again, you all are makin this too easy! Any suggestions for optics for the .45-70? I'm thinkin about a low power variable like maybe a 1.5-6 or so. Whilest I'm on that tone, the .45-70 barrel comes with iron sights, but my eyes are poor for regular sights, I prefer a scope, does the acc barrel come drilled and tapped like the complete rifle? thx
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« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2004, 12:54:42 PM »
:D  Yes it does. But I will use my 45-70 inside the treeline, so I'll use the iron sights. For the in the open, I have a win. 30-30 94AE with a tasco pronghorn  scope sighted in for 100 yds. , using 150 coreloks. I'm real yancy about dropping a deer with the 45-70. :grin:             Tommy
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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2004, 01:25:02 PM »
Yes the Acc. barrels come drilled and tapped for bases.
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« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2004, 01:49:27 PM »
My 45-70 has peep sight, think it is the NEF sells, it was on the barrel when I got it. I like it. Most likly never put a scope on it. Marv.
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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2004, 02:02:04 PM »
Quick, take a look at shotgun scopes for the .45-70. The recoil is substantial and you want a scope built to take it. I prefer fixed because they are less delicate. A considerable advantage is that at least some shotgun scopes mount far enough forward to be in front of the hammer. The unhampered access can be of considerable importance in hunting situations.

I have a cheapass BSA 2.5 on one of my .45-70s. Seemed worth the $20 to try the concept before putting serious money into a specialized scope. I'm not real happy with the BSA, but I never expected to be, and it proved that the general idea is sound.

You might also consider a peep. I have middle aged eyes, too, and open irons are out of the question, but I can still manage a peep pretty good. With a big aperture or none at all, they are tough to beat for thick cover and bad weather.
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2004, 02:06:16 PM »
Here is my problem (witch is not much of one) should I buy a 4570 out right or sent off maybe my 357 for a 4570 barrel plus maybe a couple of others just to keep it interesting thinking of maybe a 3030 and a 28ga witche none of them I need. The  wife is starting to ask how many I have thought it mite not look so bad with extra barrels.Give me some guidance fellows. :-)
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Well, did you talk your wife into the 45-70
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2004, 04:05:07 PM »
Well crap....now ya'll got me wantin' one of these .....just what I need , another agitating "want". I'm gonna have to get another 2nd job! :lol:
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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2004, 04:39:36 PM »
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Quick, take a look at shotgun scopes for the .45-70. The recoil is substantial and you want a scope built to take it. I prefer fixed because they are less delicate. A considerable advantage is that at least some shotgun scopes mount far enough forward to be in front of the hammer. The unhampered access can be of considerable importance in hunting situations.

I have a cheapass BSA 2.5 on one of my .45-70s. Seemed worth the $20 to try the concept before putting serious money into a specialized scope. I'm not real happy with the BSA, but I never expected to be, and it proved that the general idea is sound.

You might also consider a peep. I have middle aged eyes, too, and open irons are out of the question, but I can still manage a peep pretty good. With a big aperture or none at all, they are tough to beat for thick cover and bad weather.


I kinda need a scope, we have minimum antler requirements for both deer and elk here so I need to be able to count points and lookin at em with a pair of binocs then shootin seems to me to be inefficient so I'll stick with the glass. That and the fact that some of the areas I hunt have open areas that could present a 150-200yd shot, max.  I'm lookin at the bushnell trophy 1.75-4x32, Circle-X, from Jon at the Optic Zone,  if anyone has had any experience with this scope, I'd appreciate a review. It is a long eye relief scope but I don't know how long. I also don't know if it is built well enough. ??
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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2004, 05:09:20 PM »
Like2hunt I am blaming Tommy101 for this he let me drop a hammer on his 4570  let me tell you it was fun. Then he let me keep the emptys it has to be his fault I want one. :lol:
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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2004, 05:21:02 PM »
Yeah, it's my fault and I'm sticking to it.  :-D  :-D  I had no idea that this thread would get the response it did. I really feel that everyone should have a 45-70.  :roll:   I remember on the old hr/nef site that someone said that the 45-70  was a real take me back to the old days good caliber. At that time, I  was deciding whether to get a 45-70 or a 30-06. The 30-06 does offer a lot of different grain bullets, but I wanted something that would for sure would take care of my heavy work.  :D   I'm glad that I waited to see if Larry could find one for me.        i've never regretted getting the 45-70. I don't know if you can really love a gun, but I definitely love this big bore rifle without a doubt. :)  :)  :)
                                                                         Tommy
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Re: 45-70
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2004, 08:08:44 AM »
Quote from: marv
I just got my 45-70 barrel have not had time to shoot it much
 Did read some on one these boards useing Unique, I tried 12 grs
 of unique CCI LR primers, 405 cast ( Lee Mold  )  Nice  plinking
 load. What I do is when I load the rifle I point barrel Up so that small amount powder will back close to primer. No problems Marv.


I have been using 13.5 grns of Unique with a Fed 215 LMRP to make sure of ignition to powder, no fillers with a 405-gr cast.  All I can say is very accurate at 25, 50 and 100 yards which is just perfect at hunting distances in my book.

I use an RCSB single stage press, Lee Prefect Powder Measure and RCBS dies in the 45-70, and Lyman dies for the 45-90.  I have a mix of brass using W-W for the 45-70 and Starline for the 45-90.  I have found that the only advantage to using nickel cases is that they will not turn green like brass will if you leave them in leather loops on a belt.  

A good friend of mine made me a leather cartridge belt with 36 loops for my 45-70 - 45-90 quite some time ago, but that is okay for a Quigley Match for the day or a pack hunt.  A real BUFFALO CARTRIDGE BELT (copy) (historicly speaking) was made of canvas such as sold at www.shilohrifle.com and will solve this, if it is a gotta have and can't live without type of thing.  But if your on a budget the nylon cartridge holder works very well.

Have a good one

Big Bore Guns got to love em  :D
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« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2004, 10:26:06 AM »
Thanks Montanan,  I couldn't remember the load said in the old
post, :-D  So I  look up in manuels,  Found some in near the 12 gr, unique. Plan on in crease a little if I ever get time to do some shooting.
 Everybody should have a 45-70. Thinking about useing 45 colt cast bullets, teflon tape warp around them, ( 250 gr. ) aprox 15 gr Unique,
Any body pull this off??????????????
Marv.
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Re: 45-70
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2004, 11:35:09 AM »
Quote from: marv
Thanks Montanan,  I couldn't remember the load said in the old
post, :-D  So I  look up in manuels,  Found some in near the 12 gr, unique. Plan on in crease a little if I ever get time to do some shooting.
 Everybody should have a 45-70. Thinking about useing 45 colt cast bullets, teflon tape warp around them, ( 250 gr. ) aprox 15 gr Unique,
Any body pull this off??????????????
Marv.


Marv

Back when Shooters.com was around, there were those in the BPCR forum that tried with little success patching bullets with teflon tape.  Mainly because the teflon wants to grip the indents or grooves the rifling makes.  The key to patching is making sure the patching seperates from the bullet after it exits the barrel, hence paper being the best patching material.  I don't think you will find a long enough chank on a .45 cal bullet ment for the .45 Colt.  If you want to paper patch http://www.libertyshootingsupplies.com sells bullets better suited for doing this.  I purchased bullets through them for paper patching my loads for my 45-90 and use a tracing paper that I get at Wal-Mart in the art supply section which is thin enough and works well.  

Also if you would like to know more about paper patching Brent Danielson has a great write up on the subject at http://www.iastate.edu/~codi/PPB/PPB.html

I hope this helps  :D
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« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2004, 11:59:32 AM »
marv, I dabbled for a bit last year with teflon tape and Lees 255 RFN bullet for 45 Colt and 12 or 13 grains of Unique. I actually got some nice results from the get go. I quit using this combo because it is simplier to use a 300 to 340 grain cast bullet of proper size and the same charge of Unique. The effect is quite the same, Lots of Fun :-D  :-D  :-D
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« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2004, 12:34:33 PM »
Gentlemen thanks for infomation, have to play with this when i get time.
Can not find my 250 gr bullets now must of used them up.  I want to get
300 jacket bullets ether Rem or Sierra. I just got a add from Midway,
both are $12 or $13  Thanks again  Marv.
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