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« on: July 07, 2004, 03:33:04 PM »
OK guys how about some info. I have a chance to pick up 7 H&R shotgun barrels. Some are marked H&R, some are marked Topper, and some are marked Topper model 88. I have seen pictures of them and I really only want a 20 gauge and a .410. The other 20 gauge, 12 gauge and 3 .410's I have no use for. They are going to cost me about $30.00 each and they are reportedly in great to excellent condition, some appearing to be  unfired. I have to buy them in a lot to get this price. Am considering it after the price increase at NEF.  After viewing the pictures they all look as if they can be fitted to H&R NEF receivers. I have purchased another H&R barrel from this guy before and with a little TLC it fit right onto my SB2 receiver. I am unsure of the ones marked Topper or Topper Model 88 being usable on a H&R/NEF frame but think they are the same. HELP, any info out there, or anyone interested in the ones I have no use for for what I paid plus shipping of under $10.00? (probably around $7.00 - $8.00)....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2004, 03:52:54 PM »
MSP - I might be interested in one of the 20's and one of the .410's. Why don't ya email me with the specifics. I think that the topper and topper 88 should match well enough to work. I've looked at a lot of them in the pawn shops and can't see any real notable differences.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2004, 04:04:30 PM »
Lik2Hunt here is the info for you and anyone else interested, your first so you have first pick of the litter. Just what you need for that 20 gauge slug gun!!!
Other than the 20 and .410 I am interested in the markings are as follows:
 1) Topper Model .410 3" Full
2) Topper Model 88 .410 ga 3" Full
3) 20 ga Topper 3" Mod.
4) 20 ga Topper 3" Mod.
5)Topper Model 12 ga 3" Full
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2004, 04:17:45 PM »
Ok well I'm definitely interested in one of the 20's, the .410 would just be an added bonus. Yep you guessed it! Cut that 20 back, drill-n-tap, add a rail and of those nice little NRC Red dots and yeeehaw! A new smoothbore slug gun that will be a lot cheaper on ammo than the Tracker 2.  How long are the 20's? Are they 26"? Are those markings on the chamber like the NEF's? From what I know the toppers were the H&R version of the Pardner before the Marlin takeover and the upgrade to what we know as Toppers today. I'll try to go look at a couple that I know of in pawn shops tomorrow and let ya know. $30 apiece + shipping right?
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2004, 04:36:34 PM »
Thats it like2hunt, The deal is I buy all 7 to get that price, so if you and I each take a 20 and a .410 that only leaves 3 more to get buyers for. I will of course put both of yours (if you get both a 20 and a .410) in one box and you cut the shipping cost down to just a bit over half of 2 seperate boxes!!! Anyone else looking for a 12 or .410 barrel???  With the new cost increase at NEF these last 3 will only cost you about $100.00 with shipping (OK $100.00 for the three usold, one 12 and 2 .410's, with shipping included!!!) much less than from the factory....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2004, 04:47:46 PM »
Well alright then, sounds good. Keep me posted and I will you. I may change my mind before we actually settle the deal and get both 20's. I have a .410 I use for squirrel right now but have been considering going to a 20 for the ammo options.
Man too many choices.......just wish I could get everything I want all at once.....but then where would the fun be in that? :wink:
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2004, 01:51:35 PM »
MSP,
I'm not sure if the Topper model 088 will fit the newer models or not. Why I bring this up is that my Dad has an old Topper model 058 in 30-30 and 20 ga. His gun looks just like my newer NEF/H&R guns but the distance from the back of the receiver (flat part by firing pin) to the hinge pin are different between his gun and mine. Therefore we are not able to interchange barrels. Not sure if the Topper 088 is like this or not. I might be mixing apples and oranges here. I just wanted to give you a buyer beware thought.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2004, 03:28:45 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2004, 04:01:55 PM »
Thanks guys and thank you buckbeast, I have sent you an e-mail. These are all Topper barrels, even the Model 88 Toppers. As I understand it the model 058 was an earlier model which was a bit different. I am led to believe these will all fit (but may need final "fitting" as is done by the factory, gunsmiths and some members here, or if your real lucky they will just fit your receiver great as is....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2004, 11:06:01 AM »
MSP - went by one of the local gun shops today where they had a Topper 88 12 ga. and a new NEF Pardner .410. I talked him into taking the barrel off of the Topper and seeing if it would match to the .410 receiver. Perfect match, nice and snug. I just got a 24" barrel for my Pardner new from H&R and the fit of the Topper to the .410 was about the same as it is. We then put the .410 forearm on the 12ga. barrel, again matched right up. Then we tried the barrel screw from the .410 on the 12 ga., no fit. The Topper barrel screw is standard head with a tighter thread pattern than the .410's phillips head which has a loose thread pattern. So we put the same barrel screw from the Topper to the Topper barrel and then had a great feeling well matched gun to barrel gun.
So if you do get the barrels it might be a good idea to see if you can get the barrel screws also that match the barrels, other than that everything seems to work fine.
I will try to find another place that has a gun marked "Topper" only and not with the "88" and try the same thing and then post again.
Sounds like a go to me tho.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2004, 11:44:55 AM »
OK and Thanks Lik2hunt, spoke with CS today. They said the Topper and the Pardner barrels are the same but were unsure about the Model 88 Topper. I was asked to call back monday when the techs returned from summer shutdown. I guess you answered that question though....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2004, 12:08:39 PM »
Gentlemen,

Glad to hear that they will fit. Like I was saying I wasn't sure, but now like you I know in case I ever decide to buy more barrels.

good luck and happy hunting.

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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2004, 12:52:59 PM »
Thanks BuckB....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2004, 01:54:08 PM »
Gald to help. Helped you and me both. Keep me posted on the arrival of those barrels. Looking forward to the soon-to-be smoothbore 20 ga. SLUG GUN!!
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2004, 02:25:32 PM »
I'll take the 12 ga barrel if it will fit on your newer receiver. I think it should. I planned on getting one from the factory but thw prices make it too expensive for a slug gun project.Let me know when you get them.
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2004, 04:09:38 PM »
OK, Markus your down for it....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2004, 05:19:42 AM »
If anybody falls through, I would be interested in a 12g or 20g barrel. Funds sent by whatever means you desire.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2004, 04:28:04 PM »
OK JMB, As of now they are all spoken for but no funds have been asked for or determined exactly other than a max in any event of $40.00 delivered to your door. You have first right of refusal on a 12 and a 20. If you want send me your e-mail address and I'll send you a picture of the barrels. I am just waiting for the seller to advise me where and how to send him the funds and then to wait for the barrels....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2004, 11:07:15 AM »
msp -

i'll take a 410 if you have one.

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2004, 12:00:52 PM »
OK Scattergunner, I spoke with the seller today and sent him payment. He should be sending me the barrels in a day or so. I will be getting a tracking number when they are mailed so I will have a better idea in a few days of delivery date. I will send thom out to the others a day or so after I get them. The seller said he may come across a few others and will e-mail me with the particulars but he has a couple of warehouses to look through. He mentioned a Stevens barrel or 2 he may have and I told him I was not interested in any barrels that would not be able to be fitted to current H&R/NEF production guns. I will keep you on the list for the next available .410, they are all allocated right now....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2004, 04:38:15 PM »
MSPR - Any news on them barrels yet? Uhum...did you say Stevens Barrels!!??  :grin: I just might know someone who might be interested in one or two that would fit a model 94.
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2004, 06:25:46 PM »
Lik2hunt the barrels have been shipped out and I should get them next week some time then will check them, contact those parties who are part of this (you included) and ship them out. When shipping costs are determined I will determine a fair (and hopefully easy) payment method for all and let you guys know the cost. I want to break even so it does not cost me money out of my pocket but don't want to make any either....<><.... :grin:
P.S. - Stevens barrels were mentioned, if you know what model and gauge you want let me know and next time I check with him I'll inquire....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2004, 11:43:34 AM »
:D ,OK Guys they have arrived!!!  The barrels are all of the style and measurements that fit the new NEF/H&R receivers. I have tried them on both of my newer NEF receivers and they would all work, some better than others because some fit right on and some would require minimal fitting. I have sent out PM's or e-mails to all those who responded I got barrels for. If some of those that expressed interest in these 1/2 price barrels back out (I hope not, I have paid for them up-front) then I will offer them to others....Thanks for your interest and to those involved, please check your e-mail and/or PM's....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2004, 10:27:16 AM »
:D  Markus, I have sent you a couple of messages/PM's with no response, The barrel is here just waiting the word from you and an address to send it to. Please let me know soon as it's been here for a week and others are asking about it. The others that wanted in on this deal all have their barrels already and are satisfied...e-mail me at armartin1@comcast.net with your name and address (and phone number in case of a problem) if you have decided on it and I will mail it out....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2004, 11:48:54 AM »
Hey MSP RET,
                    Sorry, I thought I resonded to you through the pm system on the 18th.It's in my sent box but I guess you didn't get it. I do want the barrel I'll send you a check out tomorow.
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2004, 01:30:00 PM »
Hey MSP RET  do you still have any of those barrels for sale?
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2004, 01:48:44 PM »
flick, Markus's 12 gauge was the last one at this time. I am still waiting for a response from Markus with a name and address to send it to. I guess his PM's are messed up. I have sent him an e-mail and we will see what happens. There are another one or 2 here who want one and are waiting. If I am able to make another group purchase I will post it here. I will try to remember you wanted one and put you in the #2 or #3 spot on the list after those that have already been waiting to see if any of the "first to respond" buyers backed out. Do you have any preference in gauge?....<><.... :grin:
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« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2004, 02:57:02 PM »
ok msp ret -

my shortened vacation is over and i completed the work my customer needed done. so tomorrow morning i begin the fitting process on that slick ultra light 410 barrel, be prepared for PM !!!!

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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2004, 05:22:33 PM »
MSP - Put me down for another 20 ga. barrel if ya get some more. OK?
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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2004, 03:06:02 AM »
:D - OK lik2hunt, your down for a 20....<><.... :grin:
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