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Offline wrx101383

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« on: July 11, 2004, 02:15:41 PM »
hey guys i have a winchester 1000x.  The other day while being stupid i decided to stretch the spring by heating it and then pulling on it....figuring maybe i would get somefaster shots.  This ended up ruining the spring.  Anyone know where i can get a new spring for this gun??  Its the same as the daisy 1000x i think???

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2004, 03:48:42 PM »
Well, if it's the first Win 1000, the one made in Turkey, you may be out of luck. Daisy has cut ties to Hatsan and may no longer have a parts supply for those guns. If I were you I move on and look for another gun. Those Daisy imports just keep getting worse. RWS sells some decent rifles, Crosman now has a halfway decent spring rifle lineup, or if you don't mind a little do-it-yourself stuff theres a number of cheaper Chinese guns that do pretty well with a bit of tuning.



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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2004, 06:17:50 PM »
eh i probobly wont buy another gun for a while.  I am in college any way and that gun was just for messin around when i was home.  I dont get why the spring is like this..i just heated it shouldnt it still be fine???

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2004, 11:20:59 AM »
Airgun springs (and any other springs for that matter) are heat treated and tempered for flexibility and resiliency. Heating it up enough to stretch it ruined the temper of the spring. Depending on what kind of steel its made of and just how much heat you applied to it, one of two things will happen.
 One- the steel will air harden when it cools, and become brittle and break when the spring is flexed.
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Two- the steel will remain soft and the spring will turn into nothing more than flexible coiled wire.



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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2004, 11:46:17 AM »
dave,

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if you don't mind a little do-it-yourself stuff theres a number of cheaper Chinese guns that do pretty well with a bit of tuning.


How about out of the box C-T-C rating of 0.13"(equal to most any European made air rifles), a Rekord two stage adjustable trigger(same trigger as on many of the high dollar air rifles), springs made by Jim MacCari and a price that is easy on your wallet?  Not all Chinese air rifles are the same.  Being made in Europe doesn't make them good either.  Lawdog :D
Gary aka Lawdog is now deceased. He passed away on Jan. 12, 2006. RIP Lawdog. We miss you.

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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2004, 01:41:58 PM »
Thanks LD but I think I'll stick with my JM Tarantula powered .177 R-10 Deluxe and Monolith powered .22 Diana 54. Those Chinese guns don't exactly have a sterling reputation in the QC dept, and most of their factory rating claims are well known to be exaggerated. They do make some decent barrels though. Some guns, such as the QBs, have near match-grade barrels. The new B40 looks promising though. Reviews from the ownwers of the first few to make it here sound pretty good. If its as good as it sounds, the B40 may give the Brits a run for their money.