BBF, I've slept since we last talked, so please refresh my memory Sir. Did you ever start 'rollin' yer own'? If you did, you might take a look at the .280. Bunch more bullet choices for the handloader, but for the non-handloader the .270 beats the .280 for choices. Don't remember if the .280 barrel is offered in stainless. Just my 2 sents. BTW, how you been, and what have you been up to?