I don't know if this is of any use to anyone, but just FYI, the Barnes Bullets Inc. website will be down for a few days... I discovered it when I noticed some of the graphics (which were linked to the Barnes website) in my magazine were not working... I talked to Kami at Barnes today, and it turns out they lost their ISP... and are in the process of getting set up with a new one... I have a brand new Barnes Reloading Manual # 3 should anyone have any questions in the interim... IronKnees. If any of you have the Barnes site bookmarked, I expect that you will have to change it when the new site goes online, since the URL (web address) in all probability will be different.... Dave :?