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« on: July 24, 2004, 07:48:22 PM »
Question for you:
If the gun bans in England and Australia were disastrous as the NRA says, why would Brazil enact a similar law?  Wouldn't they just be opening up themselves for more homicides and placing a bigger burden on the their police forces?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/07/24/brazil.guns.ap/index.html
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2004, 03:50:07 AM »
Here's a few reasons:

1. The UN is pressuring nations to do something about the "problem" of "small arms proliferation" (private gun ownership).

2. Government power naturally increases over time, and individual liberties gradually decrease, until the government is destroyed and replaced.

3. When the public demands something that government cannot do for them, like "make us safe", then government must do something large and visible to show that they care about the problem. (witness the Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security)

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2004, 06:27:53 AM »
Doesn't it seem that Brazil would have appointed some type of panel to weight the beneifits and risks associated with passing such a law?  Surely such a panel would have studied other countries' efforts including UK, Australia (and maybe even Canada) and their outcomes.  

If it is true that increased restrictions on gun ownership leads to increased gun violence, then Brazil is in for a world of hurt.  Maybe this is one we need to keep our eyes on to see how it all turns out.  

What would happen if they passed a law encouraging concealed carry?  I guess the UN would have frowned on that, huh?
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2004, 09:07:34 AM »
Quote from: kkeetr
Question for you:
If the gun bans in England and Australia were disastrous as the NRA says, why would Brazil enact a similar law?  Wouldn't they just be opening up themselves for more homicides and placing a bigger burden on the their police forces?


Yes, they are. The criminals already took a military base "hostage" to get automatic weapons there. Imagine what will happen when only the miltary and police have firearms. I should say. legally have firearms, since no gun ban ever has or ever will do anything other than disarm lawful citizens.
 
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2004, 09:53:43 AM »
In todays paper, from wire services;
Sao Paulo, Brazil--A woman has turned in nearly 1,300 guns to federal police, responding to a government campaign for people to surrender privately held weapons.  Police did not identify the woman, who is expected to receive up to $65,000 for her arsenal.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2004, 02:52:33 PM »
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In todays paper, from wire services;
Sao Paulo, Brazil--A woman has turned in nearly 1,300 guns to federal police, responding to a government campaign for people to surrender privately held weapons.  Police did not identify the woman, who is expected to receive up to $65,000 for her arsenal.
 :eek:


Saw that on Fox yesterday. $50 per weapon. I guess all of you guys out there with the Purdy shotguns better start shovelling money at the NRA.

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2004, 04:24:48 PM »
I should point out the fact that Brazil isn't banning (yet). They are encouraging subjects to get rid of their guns, and requiring registration of the remaining guns.
That way they will have an inventory of the guns they need to confiscate later.

I can remember an NRA infomercial airing after the Aussie repeater ban. They were interviewing guys at the barbershop when the barber said with a smile: "I didn't have a shotgun to turn in, because I lost mine when my duck boat capsized several years ago."

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2004, 06:13:37 PM »
Thanks for the link to Kim du Toit's site.  That is a pretty interesting site.  

Oh, yeah, I was with that duck hunter.  I lost all my rifles, shotguns and pistols at the same time he lost his shotgun.  Complete loss! :wink:
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