Author Topic: Norinco Model 97 (Read 656 times)

jimbo444 · « **on:** July 29, 2004, 11:06:13 AM »

I am thinking about buying a model 97 and wanted to know if this would be a good purchase at $300. Also can I attach the barrel shroud with the bayonet lug as I like the old WWI trench guns. Any help will be much appreciated.

Ramrod · « **Reply #1 on:** July 29, 2004, 11:19:29 AM »

It's an excellent purchase if you believe in supporting the Communist Chinese. I may be wrong, but I think the weapons industry is still government owned.

John Traveler · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2004, 12:29:57 PM »

Norinco is still owned by the Communist Chinese government.

However, I disagree with your statement that buying a Norinco product amounts to supporting the Communist Chinese.

That's like saying that buying a Browning or H&K product is supporting the Socialist French. They own several gunmaking and defence industry companies too.

I maintain that buying any firearms supports the American shooting sports, and that is all good.

dukkillr · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2004, 01:08:44 PM »

go buy a real winchester, then you're supporting american shooting sports and an american gun manufacturer, plus since they don't make them anymore, you'll be supporting an american gun dealer too...

Big Paulie · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2004, 02:08:42 PM »

Sorry guys, but I will not purchase any product that is inferior, just because it is made in America. Winchester makes many firearms that are inferior and have poor quality.

dukkillr · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2004, 02:25:57 PM »

true but, the model 97 was only made pre-64 and is of very good quality. You're right about newer winchester quality, but the 97 is not an issue.

gwhilikerz · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2004, 09:45:22 AM »

I always wonder about the "buy only American" concept. I would love to do that but with many things it is just about impossible. I once asked on Greybeard if anyone had any experience with the Rossi single shot rifles. I was told to "buy American'. This from a guy who owns a Benelli, Beretta, and Browning. I bought a Ford Escort once because it was an American car. ( made in Mexico). Then a Chevy Metro (Canada). I thought I would stick with what I figured were American companies so I bought a Chevy Lumina figuring you can't get more American than GM mid-sized. Wrong! It is assembled in Canada. Maybe I should buy a Toyota Camry made in KY, or a Toyota truck made in Indiana, or a Nissan made in Tn. Hell you can't even buy Made in America Levi's anymore!

jimbo444 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2004, 03:20:20 PM »

I agree. I'd wager that 90% of everything people own is made in a foreign country like tiawan, china and malaysia. I bought the shotgun and I like it. But don't get me wrong I love America and think that it is obviously the best country in the world however, most of the stuff you buy is probably going to made in a different country like my computer that I'm on right now. I do appreciate the opinions though and thank everyone for their time.

dukkillr · « **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2004, 06:57:06 PM »

with older guns there's no debate is there? where else could a model 97 have come from? there are serial numbers and plant records and stuff on lots of guns, you can usually track them back to what city they were made in. I'd buy a pre-64 model 70 anyday, infact I've got one right now. I'd buy a springfield anyday, i've got one of those too... I even own a custom gun made in missouri off a mauser action... I haven't any doubt about quality of any of these guns (although i also have a 700 i worry about) and i know exactly where they came from.

gwhilikerz · « **Reply #9 on:** August 03, 2004, 09:07:56 AM »

Don't forget that the Mauser action was built by a country that was once our enemy. (I think maybe they still might be :grin: ). And if memory serves me we had to pay a patent infringement charge to Germany for the Springfield. That was money sent to our enemy as well. :grin:

dukkillr · « **Reply #10 on:** August 03, 2004, 11:11:48 AM »

if your point is that it's difficult to buy things that are completely american, i agree... if your point is that buying a rifle made in communist china is the same as buying a springfield or american-made custom gun with a german action, i disagree... there are degrees to the issue, however you can still support america by spending money on american products... and the products i listed are all of very high quality. are those products 100% american in every aspect? no. does a majority of the money from their sales and construction go to american companies and dealers? yes. is that what should be the point? absolutely.

gwhilikerz · « **Reply #11 on:** August 03, 2004, 03:47:27 PM »

Sorry Dukkillr I didn't mean to step on your toes. As a former union local president I am very much in favor of buying American whenever I can. I guess my point is simply that I will not judge anyone on the guns they buy. We all have a reason for what we want.