Author Topic: Close the borders to Wisconsin (Read 793 times)

Robert · « **on:** July 29, 2004, 07:17:10 PM »

Take them out before the Vermin spread any more. We the People have a constitution. We the people have a Government FOR THE PEOPLE. If it IS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE then it needs to be removed by ANY MEANS NECESSARY! Our Founding Fathers gave us (US) that priveledge...with thier BLOOD.

myronman3 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 30, 2004, 04:41:21 PM »

now i just have to ask, what are you worked up about? please dont tell me your a vi-queens fan.

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #2 on:** July 30, 2004, 05:26:42 PM »

For those who don't know what he is talking about, Kristallnacht was reenacted, right here in the USA, in Oshkosh Wisconsin, July 17, 2004.

Hordes of jackbooted thugs decended on a peaceful neighborhood, breaking into homes, scrambling the contents, destroying safes, stealing guns, and herding the victims into confinement. All because somebody shot a cop in the arm. If somebody had shot me in the arm, I'm sure they'd be willing to visit my hospital room the next day to take a written report of the incident.
http://www.wisconsingunowners.org/

dukkillr · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2004, 06:19:43 PM »

what? was this a crime wave or something? was it racially motivated? are you planning on leaving the union? can we get a calm, rational report on this?

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2004, 01:23:03 AM »

Quote from: dukkillr

what? was this a crime wave or something? can we get a calm, rational report on this?

Go to the link I provided, they give links to multiple news reports.
In short, they claim two LEOs were standing next to a cruiser when a bullet struck one in the arm. They were pretty sure which house it came from, but chose to go nuts and raid every house in the area with SWAT teams and K-9s. No probable cause or warrants, just lots of very heavily armed and totally out of control gov't employees breaking, entering, and committing grand theft. They claimed that the searches were voluntary. (yeah, right, when you show up with machine guns and order people out of their houses, it's voluntary. When you break in while they are sleeping or nobody's home, it's because the owner volunteered)
I didn't think much of it until I saw the full reports coming out a week after it happened, because I assumed it involved a bunch of idiots letting the cops in and then complaining when they took guns.
If the cops involved don't end up in prison, thugs across the nation will notice that they can get away with anything. Unlike Waco and Ruby Ridge, this is the victims' own local police department in action here.

myronman3 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2004, 05:48:27 PM »

alright. it is an outrage. but close the borders? burn it down? hold the ponys, boys.
let me tell you there are alot of good folks here. and a few dumb ones too. most of the latter are in and around madison; and in goverment. yes, our state and local governments are primarily left orientated. but you would be making a horrible mistake to judge most wisconsinites by that standard.
all i have to say is if it can happen here, it can happen where you live, too. evidently all it takes is one over zealous cop to make a poor choice. sadly, it goes to show why you cant trust them. good thing i dont live in that neighborhood, anyone entering my house without permission is in for a world of hurt.

Bikenut · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2004, 06:51:09 PM »

I am astonished that none of the police officers who participated in the home invasions, yes I said home invasions, weren't shot by the homeowners. I have a lady friend who is 70+ years old, weighs all of 90 pounds soaking wet, lives alone, and has a .38 special revolver. She has repeatedly told me that if she sees anyone... anyone! she doesn't immediately recognise enter her home she will shoot first, and shoot often, then ask questions. Woe be to any home invader who choses to invade her home! She might, or might not, notice a police uniform before firing but all bets are off if that cop isn't wearing a regulation and easily recognisable uniform and enters her home unannounced. I make darn sure I phone her first to let her know I'm coming to visit and I knock at her door real loud while standing in clear view for her to see who I am! I am not afraid that she will shoot me, I just respect her right to defend herself and the plain fact that her home is her castle.

As for me......... were I to suddenly discover someone inside my home I would take cover, draw my weapon, then ask who the &^*%$ they are..... and they had best give a good answer quickly! You see, I also believe that my home is my castle and I don't like invaders.

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2004, 03:32:50 PM »

Quote from: Bikenut

She has repeatedly told me that if she sees anyone... anyone! she doesn't immediately recognise enter her home she will shoot first, and shoot often, then ask questions. Woe be to any home invader who choses to invade her home!

... unless he and a dozen friends are carrying MP5s and wearing kevlar, then she would wish for an AR15 or better.

Mitch.

myronman3 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2004, 04:59:05 PM »

when i am 70+ i will be even crotchety-er than i am now. 12 freinds who are wannbe (but still aint) military? beats cancer. really a shame those that are supposed to enforce the law did this. if they had any dignity they would arrest each other.

Mikey · « **Reply #9 on:** August 06, 2004, 02:50:17 AM »

No warrant, no entry, go fish or suck eggs. If you try to gain entry to my home by force you will be met with immediate deadly force. If there is more than one and the remainder fail to leave my property I take the fight out to them until my lands are clear of invaders.

Kevlar and body armor doesn't stop fmj and most centerfire hunting amm is enough to take the snot out of any armored body.

Knowing that I have never committed any crime that work make a police home invasion justified, I would fight. I would rather have my home burned to the ground and lose all my possessions than to give up the fight. And brother, if I have to take the fight to my lands I am gonna take it all the way right back to the damned police station. They will know no rest and I will not stop until the threat has been eliminated.

Ya'll kin tell that sort of stuff just whizzes me off............ Mikey.

Robert · « **Reply #10 on:** August 06, 2004, 07:04:10 AM »

I haven't heard much more about it...sure would like to get an update.

myronman3 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 06, 2004, 05:58:25 PM »

you know, i live here and never heard about it until this post. and i still havent heard anything about it since.

Jack Crevalle · « **Reply #12 on:** August 07, 2004, 12:15:37 AM »

I've got to wonder if this happened in Bagdad if U.S. troops would conduct house to house searches and confiscate property at will? Our people are shot there everday but I still see Iraqiis running around openly with AK's.