Author Topic: Meanest and nicest western movie charecter (Read 13719 times)

Sourdough · « **Reply #30 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:44:19 AM »

You know, I been thinking on this. Think about Jay Silverheels charector "Tonto". Think how badly he was treated, abused, and beaten. Yet he never went after retalliation, or retrabution. I mean I would have shot some of those guys on sight after the way they treated him, but no he always did the right thing and brought them in alive and usually uninjured. He never complained, just did his job as the Lone Ranger's partner. Letting the Lone Ranger take all the credit.

The sign of a great actor, who is all but forgotten by history and the public. Jay Silverheels has always been and will always be one of my fovorite actors. He played great parts in other movies as well, far more than people realise. About 70 films total.

Look at his part in Key Largo with Boogy and Bacall. And also his potraial of Geronimo.

frontiersman · « **Reply #31 on:** August 19, 2007, 08:22:28 PM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on May 08, 2007, 06:09:30 PM

Rooster Cogburn in True grit. Not only the nicest but far and away the greatest. I have watched the movie maybe 100 times and it still thrills me when he turns his horse spins his rifle and say,s the famous quote. CAn anyone give me his quote?

I believe it was "Fill your hands you Son Of A B---h!".

billy_56081 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 20, 2007, 11:10:51 AM »

You are right!

Foggy · « **Reply #33 on:** February 02, 2008, 07:27:05 PM »

You all Frogot the Best William Boyd Hopalong Cassidy was the gratest far differant from the hopalong in the Books

bkraft · « **Reply #34 on:** February 04, 2008, 03:47:20 PM »

Meanest without doubt or question has got to be Blue Duck, that guy would give Charlie Manson nightmares. Nicest would be Deets, dude had some major good karma.

rex6666 · « **Reply #35 on:** March 17, 2008, 07:02:53 AM »

Billy
are you talking about when calmly says "Ned Pepper, fill your hands you SOB"

billy_56081 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 17, 2008, 01:11:20 PM »

That is the Quote REX and I think Ned Pepper (Bobby Duval) was the best bad guy ever in a western.

Dee · « **Reply #37 on:** March 17, 2008, 01:53:58 PM »

After thinking about this for almost a year and a half (not all the time mind you), I have come to the conclusion it is ONE GUY for BOTH.
Woodrow F. Call. He had a kind side toward his son at times, took more guff than necessary from Claire, and protected, and avenged his own with the ruthlessness of Attila the Hun.

Duke0313 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 17, 2009, 09:14:43 PM »

Quote from: Smoky Mountain Red on February 23, 2005, 09:34:41 AM

I don't know about meanest , but the most dangerous had to be Hoppy with that dad burn double of his. Even John Wayne yelled before he went in that jail...

:-)

Yes, yes, it's an old thread...just wanted to point out that the character's name was Stumpy, not Hoppy.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #39 on:** June 18, 2009, 06:41:59 AM »

Okay... okay. $:-\$ It IS an old thread, but since Duke brought it back up and I just watched the rebroadcast of "Lonesome Dove"...

Dee is aboslutely correct! Do a carefull study of Woodrow F. Cull throughout the series. Virtually every scene he was in exposed another aspect of his incredibly complex character.

Jones should have gotton some type of award for his performance. Would that we had a nation of men like him!

Crap,

Listen to me... I'm a movie critic now...

Skunk · « **Reply #40 on:** June 18, 2009, 07:11:18 AM »

Quote from: Roman Nose on May 09, 2007, 09:16:09 PM

I kind of like Hackman in Unforgiven talking about the "Duck of Death".

For one of the meanest, I'd have to go with Gene Hackman as Little Bill Daggett in, The Unforgiven. He's a genuine sociopath.

charles p · « **Reply #41 on:** November 18, 2009, 06:48:56 AM »

Blue Duck was a pretty bad guy in Lonesome Dove. Roy Rogers was sweet on Dale Evans.

mrbigtexan · « **Reply #42 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:31:52 PM »

have ya'll seen ythe sequels to lonesome dove called streets of laredo and dead man walking. in one of them there is a guy called markie marx. that was one mean hombre. i would have to agree that Deets was the nicest guy in all westerns.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 28, 2009, 04:39:39 PM »

I ahve seen the streets of Larado, but not dead man walking I'll have to see if I can find it. Thanks.

AtlLaw · « **Reply #44 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:28:47 AM »

Quote from: mrbigtexan on December 28, 2009, 04:31:52 PM

sequels to lonesome dove called streets of laredo and dead man walking.

Never even heard of them!

Are they available on CD? Do they have any of the same characters? what's the plots?

Quote

Deets was the nicest guy in all westerns.

Musta been, my wife-mate cried when he got stuck...

But then, she just one a them emotional type wimmins...

I was more interested in his (Deet's) ridin britches, looked like confederate cavalry but that's not likely...

I believe his gun gear was union though... $:-\$

AtlLaw · « **Reply #45 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:38:14 AM »

Hummmmm. I really should research before I type...

Comanche Moon, 1997, Larry Jeff McMurtry
This is Deets's first chronological appearance in the books. This book explains that he was an escaped slave who was offered a job in the Texas Rangers by Woodrow F. Call. He begins by working as a cook for Rangers while traveling. Later on, when their captain Inish Scull leaves the troop and takes the Kickapoo tracker Famous Shoes with him, Deets takes on the role of tracker.

I never knew there was a whole series of these novels. LD was only the first! I gotta get out more...

mrbigtexan · « **Reply #46 on:** January 03, 2010, 04:08:11 PM »

Quote from: AtlLaw on December 29, 2009, 06:28:47 AM

Quote from: mrbigtexan on December 28, 2009, 04:31:52 PM
sequels to lonesome dove called streets of laredo and dead man walking.

Never even heard of them! Are they available on CD? Do they have any of the same characters? what's the plots?

Quote
Deets was the nicest guy in all westerns.

Musta been, my wife-mate cried when he got stuck... But then, she just one a them emotional type wimmins... I was more interested in his (Deet's) ridin britches, looked like confederate cavalry but that's not likely... I believe his gun gear was union though... $:-\$

yeah, they are on dvd, they have the same characters but different actors. one of the movies is when they are real young and just becoming Texas Rangers.

Duke0313 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 03, 2010, 09:20:27 PM »

"Dead Man's Walk" is set during the days of the Republic. The new Rangers are sent to invade New Mexico with disastrous results. "Comanche Moon" is set between the former and the original "Lonesome Dove."

mrbigtexan · « **Reply #48 on:** February 04, 2010, 05:56:20 AM »

i just got to watch comanche moon the other day. it was as good as the others too.

Blue Duck · « **Reply #49 on:** February 13, 2010, 04:35:59 AM »

I read the whole series. Great books. I guess Id have to say Blue Duck was a bad one alright....

Duke0313 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 14, 2010, 07:56:20 PM »

Don't be so hard on yerself, there, Ducky!

Spirithawk · « **Reply #51 on:** October 17, 2011, 03:24:58 PM »

Kirk Douglas in the Villain for mean, but a hillarious mean.

Too many good guys to easily choose just one but Tom Selleck would be high on the list if you exclude the numerous B Western cowboys. That said I'll agree with Sourdough on Jay Silverheels. He's been a lifelong hero to me.

Hodr · « **Reply #52 on:** October 17, 2011, 03:51:55 PM »

Karl Malden played Tom Fitch in the movie Nevada Smith. Tied a man and his wife to seperate posts looking for gold, tortured the man, skinned the wife in front of him, took her left breast to make a tobacco pouch, set the place on fire as he left and stole the horses. Spent next several years bragging about it. Nevada Smith caught up with him, when Fitch got suspicious he offered him tobacco from the pouch cut from his mother's chest. I take this as a seriouly mean man.

Hodr

ppine · « **Reply #53 on:** May 13, 2012, 10:26:50 AM »

This is a great post. I liked Hopalong Cassidy, Roy Rogers, and Gene Autrey as consistently good guys. Lone Ranger and Tonto were good guys. Deets as a fine character.

Bruce Dern in "The Cowboys", definitely Blue Duck from LD, and Jack Palance in Shane. Clint Eastwood's character in High Plain's Drifter was really nasty. The bad guys in "North to Alaska" were really bad.

charles p · « **Reply #54 on:** May 14, 2012, 04:08:09 PM »

Read all the McMurty books and they are great. Dead Man Walking is a L_O_N_G movie to watch with a wierd ending.

Savage_99 · « **Reply #55 on:** May 14, 2012, 05:11:47 PM »

Bronson

streak · « **Reply #56 on:** May 14, 2012, 05:30:32 PM »

Two nice guys that I remember, probably because I had the honor of shaking hands with both of them , and they were Ben Johnson and Gene Autry!

chefjeff · « **Reply #57 on:** May 15, 2012, 02:00:43 AM »

Check out Mr. nice guy ,Terence Hill in the "trinity" movies.Certainly one of the funniest!

ppine · « **Reply #58 on:** May 15, 2012, 04:46:21 AM »

Streak,
Good for you. Ben Johnson was the best. Two weeks ago I introduced Waddie Mitchell a native son of Nevada. He is arguably the world's most famous cowboy poet. He is a prince of a person. Livestock people in general are humble, polite, and easy to be around.

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 15, 2012, 06:25:12 AM »

Al Swearingen could be nice, and mean. Mostly mean.