Author Topic: need a couple of answers handi (Read 796 times)

ken s · « **on:** August 07, 2004, 04:50:53 AM »

Ihave a 243 handi cant get good groups with it .3in best at 100yds.I do handload! tried 55s-70s- 80s an 85grs the 55s where the best 1.25in but i want a deer load with 80s an 85s but best i can do with them is 3in. is this all i can expect out of this 243? would be happy with 1.25-1.5 groups hell i would be tickeld pink! next Q.If i should get rid of this sorry barrel an put on a 22-250 barrel can i expect one inch groups with 55s heck i want to hit a p dog or two with it. need some in put guys. i know there's some of u guy's out there know the skinny on this so clue me in. NO BS now! i know every one wants his rifle to group good [ me too] but no fudgeing on group size's ok. thanks.
ken s

Mac11700 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2004, 06:35:36 AM »

Well...I don't have a 243...but a-lot of others here do,and get pretty good groups with it.Have you tried the o-ring trick under the forearm stud...this allows the barrel to ride higher in the barrel channel of the forearm...doing a rather inexpensive free floating of it.Also...when shooting off a rest on the bench...are you resting it towards the hinge pin? This also helps a great deal....and with these Handi's you have to follow thru with the trigger when it breaks and hold it pulled...this also helps. I'm sure someone will help you out with the ammo and bullet selection here.....

Good Luck

Mac

Ditchdigger · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2004, 11:54:16 AM »

I've used the Sierra 85 gr boatail hollow point match grade with excellant results. IMR 4350 works best for me,usually about .9 " at 100 and 1.25" at 200 yds. The boatails will usually shoot as small a group at 200 yds as they will at 100. My longest shot on a whitetail with this bullet was 293 steps. Hope this helps. Digger

handirifle · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2004, 08:32:39 PM »

nen s
Do you shoot other barrels off that receiver?

If so, are they more accurate?

If you do have other barrels and they are not accurate, there may be an issue with the receiver.

Do you rest the forend on the rest in front of or behind the forend screw? Best if rested behind, close to the receiver.

Do you do this consistantly?

How heavy is your trigger pull? Had a trigger job?

Have you tried having anyone else shoot it for groups?

I had a friend at the range last year with his new 7MM Mag and he was getting 3 1/2 to 4" groups. Not happy with the rifle at all. I tried and first group was 1 1/2". He went from an '06 to the 7 Mag. I think he was flinching.

In light of all this I have had BAD barrels from NEF. Mine was a BC 45-70. Got them to replace it free and new one was very accurate.

Hope this helps.

ken s · « **Reply #4 on:** August 08, 2004, 11:02:18 AM »

I rest it on the forearm screw same place all the time.Trigger pull is 3 1/4 have placed 0 ring. polished chamber. ck the crown looks good. even molly fushioned bore.iam 64ys old so had my son shoot it. his groups where even worse than mine. dagone'it i like this rifle. so it kinda hurt when he said to throw it away. no this is my only barrel but i did have a 25/06 handi once that would shoot rings around this one. should have kept it huh. i will work on more loads for it maybe i can come up with something i can live with. thank u one an all.
ken s :-)

quickdtoo · « **Reply #5 on:** August 08, 2004, 11:51:45 AM »

Ken, The best place to position the rest is just ahead of the forend spacer hinge. The farther forward it is placed, the more pressure is placed on the barrel. Also, because of the transfer bar trigger system, follow through with the trigger pull is critical, it needs to be pulled all the way and not released at the break. A good bore polish with JB won't hurt, either. Hth, Tim

handirifle · « **Reply #6 on:** August 08, 2004, 08:59:27 PM »

ken
How many rounds have you put through it? My son has 223 that I was ready to chuck out a window. After about 300 or more rounds through it it settled down. Now Win white box ammo gets 3/4" groups real regular.

Are you sure you do not have scope problem? have you tried other scopes or made sure it is mounted tightly?

handirifle · « **Reply #7 on:** August 09, 2004, 06:59:35 AM »

KEN
I didn't see anything mentioned about your scope. Make sure it is not moving in the mount. Have you used this scope on other rifles? It might not be holding zero. All are possibilities to examine before getting rid of the rifle/barrel.