Silhouette CPR --- A Suggestion

[chunter]

All,

Shooting Paul made a post a while back that got zero replies. However, I have not got it out of my mind.  Here is his post:

..."Silhouette CPR" - YES we had kept our sport well hidden and it needs a big time reviving!
So what are you suggesting for more advertising of our sport across the WORLD - yes - not only America and Canada
- and (here comes the kicker) what are you willing to do? in writing! to get it done!
What I did - is a 4 years ago I started my site (because at that time there was nothing out there), I also plan to write about silhouette to our national body NFA (like NRA in USA), well the funniest part is that English is my second language.  There are many other shooters that can do it much better than me, but were are they?
I really look to some ideas and maybe someone will grab a torch and start running the silhouette fame road...
do you agree?

Our sport of rifle silhouette does not even have a dedicated publication. We are lucky every once in a while to have an article or story show up in one of the many publications out there.  Many shooters are missing out on a great resource and learning.  I would propose that we start a dedicated site that would combine all of the different aspects of a monthly publication with that of the sites that Shooting Paul and 22Silhouette have created.
Shooting Paul and 22Silhouette  have put together some great sites for silhouette shooting, full of information that we can show to new shooters.  Others of us have a page or two but nothing like their sites.  I would propose that maybe we see about getting a domain name like "SilhouetteShooting.Com" and see if we can piggy back on some web server.  From there we can put up monthly/weekly stories and resources. Also match schedules, and silhouette shooting locations. Different shoots and shooters could be spotlighted. We could have even have a product section for known vendors.  I am not thinking about starting another graybeardoutdoors, but a static website that could be used as a newsletter and information resource.  
The reason why I am thinking about this, is because I got hold of one of the IHMSA monthly newspapers and saw all of the great information that they have in them.  I think that this could be a valuable resource for our community.  It would not be a huge undertaking, nor would it be very expensive.

In the past it has seemed like there has been depraved indifference to suggestions like this, and Shooting Paul's post proved it. However, we are going into our off season, and it would be a perfect time to look at something like this.

Casey

Edit:  I realized that I put in 40x40's name, when I meant 22Silhouette's.  However, I do want to congradulate 40x40 on some good shooting at Nationals.

[Grasshopper52]

If memory serves, I think there is a publication called the "National Silhouette Report". I'm not sure if it is still published or not as I did not sign up for it as it mainly focused on pistol shooting and I only shoot rifles. Does anybody know more about this?

[ajj]

The National Silhouette Report  was revived recently and is published approximately four times a year when they have sufficient time and material. I think Jim Harris (Gun Zorro) got it up and running initially and that it's now handled by someone else since it was taking too much of Jim's time and energy. It's $15 a year. I'll find the address tonight if nobody else posts it first.  It is indeed devoted primrily to handguns, but there are rifle articles too and I enjoy reading all of it.
I don't have any brilliant ideas about promotion but I know something that will do no harm. Keep attending and helping put on your local matches and keep enticing new shooters out to try it. Some of them will like it and return, especially if the atmosphere is friendly and sociable. What we really want and need is that steady influx of new shooters, just one here and one there. That's going to happen locally, if it happens,  because someone got an invitation from a friend.

[K2]

Hi Chuckhunter  

Until the early this year I was a member of the IHMSA as a state director, match director and AP records director.  They have a dedicated Silhouette monthly that is quite nice, color and all the matches are reported.  The problem with it is that it only is seen by the members and in that respect is like putting your lamp under a basket, it doesn't shine out and attract newcomers.  The NSR is being run from Texas now by Bob Baier (sp?).  Bob is an IHMSA member, and so I suspect the NSR will continue to feature handgun silhouette heavily.  However I suspect that if you got in touch with him he would be happy to put an article you write on rifle silhouette in the paper.  He still wants me to write on AP silhouette, though a political battle raging in the IHMSA kept me from getting around to that.   I have no idea what the circulation of the NSR is but I imagine it is not too large.  

Silhouette is fun, has a lot of potential for the hunter that wishes to keep his marksmanship skills sharp, and is a great family game.  It gets very little if any exposure in the the mainstream gun magazines such as G&A, Shooting Times, American Rifleman etc. because it is not very popular right now.  Cowboy articles are hard to avoid in just about all the magazines because it is gaining so many members.  One hand feeds the other I suspect.  If your game is popular you get coverage which in turn adds to the popularity.  However Trap is popular and so is bullseye pistol and they don't get much coverage either.   Perhaps the fact that you can go shoot either B.E. or Trap any time you wish just about anywhere in the country has something to do with it?  In silhouette about the only time one can shoot it is during a regulation match.      

The biggest problem the handgun side had was that they changed rules about as often as you should change your socks and that became a problem and they lost their base.

I don't know all the answers but I think I do know some of them and am working in that direction of getting silhouette noticed with a small group of like minded individuals.  Will it work?  Time will tell.

If it is fun, and they know about it, it should sell don't you think?
 

All,

Shooting Paul made a post a while back that got zero replies. However, I have not got it out of my mind.  Here is his post:

..."Silhouette CPR" - YES we had kept our sport well hidden and it needs a big time reviving!
So what are you suggesting for more advertising of our sport across the WORLD - yes - not only America and Canada
- and (here comes the kicker) what are you willing to do? in writing! to get it done!
What I did - is a 4 years ago I started my site (because at that time there was nothing out there), I also plan to write about silhouette to our national body NFA (like NRA in USA), well the funniest part is that English is my second language.  There are many other shooters that can do it much better than me, but were are they?
I really look to some ideas and maybe someone will grab a torch and start running the silhouette fame road...
do you agree?

Our sport of rifle silhouette does not even have a dedicated publication. We are lucky every once in a while to have an article or story show up in one of the many publications out there.  Many shooters are missing out on a great resource and learning.  I would propose that we start a dedicated site that would combine all of the different aspects of a monthly publication with that of the sites that Shooting Paul and 40x40 have created.
Shooting Paul and 40x40  have put together some great sites for silhouette shooting, full of information that we can show to new shooters.  Others of us have a page or two but nothing like their sites.  I would propose that maybe we see about getting a domain name like "SilhouetteShooting.Com" and see if we can piggy back on some web server.  From there we can put up monthly/weekly stories and resources. Also match schedules, and silhouette shooting locations. Different shoots and shooters could be spotlighted. We could have even have a product section for known vendors.  I am not thinking about starting another graybeardoutdoors, but a static website that could be used as a newsletter and information resource.  
The reason why I am thinking about this, is because I got hold of one of the IHMSA monthly newspapers and saw all of the great information that they have in them.  I think that this could be a valuable resource for our community.  It would not be a huge undertaking, nor would it be very expensive.

In the past it has seemed like there has been depraved indifference to suggestions like this, and Shooting Paul's post proved it. However, we are going into our off season, and it would be a perfect time to look at something like this.

Casey

[chunter]

I guess I need to clarify a couple things.  My goal with this project would be to create a static informational library for silhouette shooters.  There are many places all over the web that have silhouette information. However, you have to spend a lot of time to find them.   I think a website that linked them would be a very good resource for old and new shooters.

Second, it would be nice to be able to read articles about other shooters in a dedicated publication.  Instead of our stories being spread amongst 15 locations.  While it is good that we get a story in many different places (for publicity) it still would be nice to have a bit of commonality.

In my opinion it would be nice to have a dedicated location that you could send a new shooter that would enable them research rules and information.  More or less this website could have a magazine like appearance front-end and a backend of links to other resources.

I might be up in the night with this.

Casey

[K2]

The rules should be posted by the sponsering association/organization.  Doesn't the NRA have the rules on their site?  

As far as chat boards go, this one seems to be tops, why go elsewhere?  

I guess I need to clarify a couple things.  My goal with this project would be to create a static informational library for silhouette shooters.  There are many places all over the web that have silhouette information. However, you have to spend a lot of time to find them.   I think a website that linked them would be a very good resource for old and new shooters.

Second, it would be nice to be able to read articles about other shooters in a dedicated publication.  Instead of our stories being spread amongst 15 locations.  While it is good that we get a story in many different places (for publicity) it still would be nice to have a bit of commonality.

In my opinion it would be nice to have a dedicated location that you could send a new shooter that would enable them research rules and information.  More or less this website could have a magazine like appearance front-end and a backend of links to other resources.

I might be up in the night with this.

Casey

[chunter]

Clarifying again:

I am proposing a static webpage has nothing to do with a chat or forum.  Only home for links to sites like this one.  Nor have I proposed that the rules be placed on this website.  

My vision would be that this website would have a magazine cover appearance, with current silhouette news and stories. On this site would be links for further silhouette information to sites like the NRA's rules, and specs.  More or less this would be an encompassing current links database with a publication front end.  Just like a magazine. Articles in the front, and information for further research and ads in the back.

[K2]

Sounds good!

Clarifying again:

I am proposing a static webpage has nothing to do with a chat or forum.  Only home for links to sites like this one.  Nor have I proposed that the rules be placed on this website.  

My vision would be that this website would have a magazine cover appearance, with current silhouette news and stories. On this site would be links for further silhouette information to sites like the NRA's rules, and specs.  More or less this would be an encompassing current links database with a publication front end.  Just like a magazine. Articles in the front, and information for further research and ads in the back.

[Photog]

You mentioned some sites that are already up. Could you give an address? I would love to know more about Silhouette shooting it sounds like it would be fun. Any info for a new guy would help.

[chunter]

Shooting Pauls Site
http://www.shootingpaul.netfirms.com/


22silhouette's site
http://members.cox.net/riflesilhouette/

[dwl]

CHunter;

Gees, CH, while everyone discusses who's doing the newsletter, no one is volunteering to create a web site.  We need someone who can put a site together and I guess enough money to buy a domain name.  Since I'm not a webbie I have no idea what else is required but the idea is great.  

It would be really nice to have a single source to go to to find basic information and links to other more specific information.  If all I had to remember, besides work and what the wife wants, is something as easy as SilhoutteShooting.com that would have info and links to other sites, including this one, that would simplify things greatly.

I'd like to see the following directly or by link:
Rules
Range Equipment
Shooting Equipment
Good Stories with photos
Shoot schedules

[shootingpaul]

Hello chunter!
thanks for thinking of me,
yes a while ago I got that post "silh CPR" and not many replies, so we are still keeping our sport very hidden........
As to the web site - if someone wants to build a new web site - that is fine with me, but if you want to contribute to mine that even better, what i am trying to say is that I am willing to set up a special page or pages for US shooters that they could come and check their competitions etc, as long it is in basic format and does not require me to change it.

My web site is based mostly on links - because I DO NOT WANT to steal someones ide or work - and by linking it to their site they will get credit, it is soo easy to copy someones work and post on different web site, but I respect their hardy work.
I also try to keep it simple - not everyone has high speed connection - so I try to stay away from funcy glitter.

this winter (well here at least) I will build into my site and probably make it 2X bigger, winter because thats only time I can sit infront of PC.
I welcome your ideas and maybe some projects,
I would like you to contribute your findings, tips, ideas, as long - you know - its silhouette - to be specific - RIFLE silhouette, and it has some good points.  My site has so far over 20000 hits in 2 years (some are laughing that it has 19991 of mine own) and i builded it for you so you may as well get a good use of it

I want to start new corner "my point of view" were I will try to share some of mine findings in shooting. ..... and ofcourse a lot of new and interesting links.
Be patient - soon hunting season opens and........... I will be gone shooting anything that moves.............
just hit me .... sil targets do not move........:-)

[Jerry G]

As I recall, there have been several paper news letters and stuff about rifle sil.  Nothing has lasted very long.  I think we have to face reality and admit out group is quite small and not growing.  We seem to be holding our own as far as new shooters replacing the old fogies that die off.  If we can get 200 at the nationals, that is a big deal.  Most club matches I go to are less than 10.  It seems that the new shooters show up and shoot less than 15, go home and don't come back.  I don't know if it is just too hard to shoot well or everyone is too busy with something else.  If we made the sport easier, I think most of the old shooters would quit.  Look at pistol.  If you dont get a 40, you are not in contention for first place.  Their sport is fading more than our's is.

I think CPR for the sport is getting more people interested in shooting, not more shooters interested in silhouette.