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Offline busman202002

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.41 gnr ??
« on: August 23, 2004, 09:29:04 AM »
I just had my S&W 41 mag converted to a 41 gnr by Gary Reeder, anyone here have one, plan to use it for whitetails with 170 JHP at around 1600 fps. The .41 has worked fine just had to have a new TOY!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2004, 01:10:41 PM »
I shot Kelly Brosts gnr at the linebaugh seminar. Im not into the cheesy engraving on them but after shooting it at the 800 yard buffalo i fell in love. That gun just flat SHOT! He was taking it to Hawaii to hunt hogs with last month never did here how the gun did.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2004, 02:59:05 AM »
I have a blue 5.5 Redhawk 41.GNR -- I took a 5 point with the 170 load Gary recomends - 18" or so of pentatration on a frontal shot -velocity is 1660 -- I have been using AA#9 and have gained some velocity but have not tried the 170 load but will soon but here is what mine will do with 296 -- 200jhp 1510 --- 170 1660--- 210 with AA#9 1470 -- 240 LBT LFNgc with 296 1410 and with AA#9 1440+ the 200 with AA#9 is 1560+ ------Before I had the gun rechambered -- 170 was about 1540-  200/ 1440 -- the 210 1380-- and  the LBT 1370 -- I have really enjoyed mine hope you do- let me know if you find any great loads --the Speer Gold is really impressive
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2004, 10:19:22 AM »
Can't help you with 170g loads, I shoot Kelly's excellent 250g cast stuff in "The Green Machine" now.  Use 2400 for 95% of my .41 caliber shooting. If you ever feel like you wish to shoot heavier stuff in your .41GNR I’ll be glad to share what I have found out about those 250g and above loads.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2004, 12:11:35 PM »
Crawfish what is the velocity of you rLBT loads--if you do not mind?  as to the 170 GR gave me and I assume that whoever buys his guns some data - but my gun does its best with 296 the 170 and 28.8 gr  and Fed 155-- I have not tried any 2400 but I have learned to like AA#9 a lot and real fast-- I also have not tried any AA#9 with the 170 but will -- i tend to use most my own cast bullets -- took a doe last with the normal .41 and LWNgc 240 grain bullets good holes in and out -- also took one with the 170 front in the chest and it did well too but no exit which is no surprize but a very dead deer.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2004, 02:58:45 PM »
pulled this up at work so I don't have my load log here but I can tell you that all my .41s except the .411JDJ are loaded to shoot a 250g wfngc from CPBT or BearTooth at 1150-1250fps. I shoot .41RemMag, .41GNR, 41GNR#2 and .411JDJ. I load a 265g LFNGC in the .41JDJ also to 1150-1250. There is reason behind this loading. I used to load as many as 8 different bullets using 5 powders but over the years of shooting the .41 I have settled on that load level because it fills all my hunting needs. I don't shoot at long range, in fact I don't shoot over 30 yards, figured out long ago that if the stick and string guys could limit themselves to that range so could I. The 250g bullet at that 1150-1250fps at as far as 67 yards will shoot through both front shoulders of a 600 pound bison. I know 'cause I did it. That bison IS THE ONLY ANIMAL I HAVE EVER SHOT AT MORE THAN 30 YARDS with a handgun. Special situation involving and enraged, escaped animal in a children's petting zoo.  It will also shoot through much bigger animals over 2000+ lbs at my 30 or less.. Can tell you that my loads now use either 2400 or 4227. Post tomorrow night or send you a PM.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2004, 02:57:35 AM »
Crawfish Thanks for the answer-- I thought that from some of your other posts that was the velocity level you used- I guess i am still stuck on the "i want a little more " syndrome -- :oops:  Although I wonder why sometimes -- thanks again
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.41 GNR with 250grn & up
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2004, 06:56:14 AM »
Crawfish,

I've had a .41 GNR for a couple years & would surely appreciate your experience in loading the heavier weights.

I've sent you a PM.

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I'll let the cat , wildcat that is, out of the bag.
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2004, 10:25:28 AM »
I’m going to tell all. There is really no secret to loading Gary's .41 wildcats. I was concerned when I got my first one, a .41GNR#2,  I was really lost as to how to feed the beast. I got the .41RemMag first and when I decided I needed bigger I got the .41GNR#2 in a Contender, then I got "The Green Machine". So all the heavy bullet stuff I learned on the .41GNR#2 first. When I got that .41 wildcat I had no idea of what to feed it or how much. Gary sends load data with all his wildcat rounds but I just felt that it was very conservative. Looking at the load data I saw that it, in some ways, didn't even approach the power level of the parent cartridge for the .41GNR#2 which is the .445Super.
Well I have always gone by the adage “go to the person who knows”. I started talking to some of the long time pistol guys. I contacted some by mail, phone and email and they almost all said what Paco Kelly told me best. The .41 as compared to the .44 (as in .41GNR) has only .019 difference in bore diameter and in some cases not even that when you see .41s at .411 or .412 and some .44s at .428-7. The difference is small. What he suggested made total sense, JUST USE THE DATA OF THE PARENT CARTRIDGE AS YOUR REFERENCE. Use standard loading procedure of starting 5% below and work up. That is all I do for thr .41GNR and .41GNR#2. I find a load in .44RemMag or .445Super for the bullet weight I want, in this case a 250g cast, then go from there. I usually load at .5g increments when working up loads and always weight every one until I get to where I want. So using that I found loads using 2400 that went from 18-23g and for 4227 from 22-24g (great powder by in .41GNR it really shines in .41GNR#2). These loads are for CONTENDERS but are safe in my Reeder 5 shooters. After I found the load range it was a simple thing to zero in on my power range of 1150-1250fps by shooting over my Bata Master. So I now load one bullet and load in .41RemMag (but I get two power levels depending on if I use the load in a Ruger or a Contender), and one bullet and 2 loads in .41GNR, and one bullet and load for .41GNR#2. So all this to say I load either 250wfngc/15g/2400 or 250wfngc/21.5g/4227 in my .41GNR to get that magic speed for me of 1196 and 1234 in "The Green Machine. That is all there is to it. I decide the bullet and load level I want. I look at the published data in all the books I have. Pick a few out, start low, work up, tweak the good loads, shoot the finished product over my Bata Master for at least 50 rounds (to be sure that the load is in fact stable), then go out and kill something with it. There is nothing in that procedure that is unusual from what I’d bet 99% of the reloaders do.
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