I've had three; one I still have. The one that I still have is an older stainless with factory folding stock and 5 Ruger factory 20 rd. mags. With the irons that came with it, it's good for 4MOA with M193 55 gr. ball. The Ranch stainless with a scope was good for about the same, and the Ranch Mini 30 was 5MOA. This was with factory ball ammo, and you could probably do better with handloads. IMO, for the money, you'd be better off getting a Bushmaster XM-15 with a 16" barrel, and A4 upper. I have three AR-15's, two Bushmasters and a preban Colt, and all of them are sub MOA. You'll pay about $300.00 more for the AR, but it will be much more accurate, and hi cap mags are much more available, and one heck of alot more reliable than Mini 14 hi caps. Mini 14 and Mini 30 hi caps, with the exception of the Ruger mags, which are no longer available to any but LE, and PMI, which is no longer in business, are junk. I've tried the Eagle, KKK, and USA brands in all three of my Mini's and maybe 1 in three worked with no stoppages in a fully loaded mag. To me this is unacceptable performance. Most AR mags are MilSpec, and made to much better standards than the aforementioned Mini 14 aftermarkets. I sold the other two Mini's I had, and have no regrets about doing so. The Mini 14/30 is a reliable, minute of human utility gun, but not much more. For my money, you're better off with the AR-15. Keep in mind that you can switch the uppers on an AR-15 to another caliber/configuration by removing two pins, something you can't do with a Mini.