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« on: August 30, 2004, 04:36:36 PM »
What if you could take something you dont like about a Rem...and replace it with another guns attribute/s, what would it be and from what gun?
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2004, 04:50:44 PM »
I would lose the scope bases on the 700 and replace with Ruger's patented integral scope mounting system from the M77...

Actually I would take the whole receiver from the M77 and put it up behind Remingtons barrel...no wait, I guess I will just stick to the Ruger M77 altogether, but if Remington would make an integral scope mounting system it would be great.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2004, 04:56:04 PM »
Hmm...I'd probably take Savage's AccuTrigger and put it in all of the Remington rifles. And maybe Benelli's Inertia system in the Remington 11-87 shotguns. One can dream, right?  :roll:
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2004, 04:57:29 PM »
Quote from: Fishman029
And maybe Benelli's Inertia system in the Remington 11-87 shotguns. One can dream, right?  :roll:


Thats for sure  :-D
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2004, 04:58:05 PM »
Ah come on 7Mag, you could put the receiver in the 700...just leave the trigger and the saftey. And even then, I don't think Ruger has the "Three Rings of Steel" in their receiver like Remington does. But that's the Remington aficionado coming out in me :roll:
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2004, 06:27:35 PM »
Quote from: Fishman029
just leave the trigger and the saftey. I don't think Ruger has the "Three Rings of Steel" in their receiver like Remington does.


I prefer Timney Triggers over ALL triggers.
Now the Safety is one thing I would take from the 700 and put on the newer M77 but the MKII safety is ok once you get used to it...
I like the Simple yet Solid Mauser Action Receiver myself, and once the bolt is closed, its locked up as tight as a bank vault...just as tight as ANY other Bolt Rifle and actually tighter than most...

I love Remingtons especially 700s (and 870s) but I can not stand the thought of a "sleeved" barrel like Remington uses now to cut production cost and time...I will stick with the good old hammer forged one piece barrel over the two piece sleeved barrel any day of the week.

And on to the stock, perhaps the most overlooked and important thing on the gun...Remington's and Rugers both need a little dremel work from day one, but I prefer the "Plain Jane" straight stock of the Ruger, but that is totally personal choice...
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2004, 02:11:44 PM »
I'd take the hinged floor-plate, removable magazine from the Browning A-Bolt series and put it in the Remingtons!
It just seems like it would be handy!
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2004, 02:33:24 PM »
Gentlemen,
Let me take a few lines to voice my opinion on the subject of remington rifles, By the way i'm not an expert on anything, Thats a claim i cannot make, # 1 With the remington trigger as easy as it is to work on you don't need a timney trigger ( another added expence ) as far as the sight setup
yes some thing like the ruger mounting would be great. But as far as the stock goes i don't see any thing wrong with them, ( of course i do have a few Mc Millens ) It may be that the Remingtons just fit me. I have them from 17 rem to 416 rem mag and love each and every one. Thats it for me now i will set back and dodge the flying objects. yall have a great day and keep your powder dry........Joe........
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2004, 03:20:48 PM »
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Thats it for me now i will set back and dodge the flying objects.

O.K. here comes a tomato!  :)  :-D  

I have six Remington 700s : 30'06, 222, 222mag, 6mm, 7mm Rem Mag, and a 300 Win. Mag. and I love them all, just like you love yours...
I also love the trigger in the Remington 700...
I do not have a problem in the world with the good ole Remington Bolt Action Rifle and actually would not change a thing(except for the scope mounting system)  
but the Timney Triggers and the stocks on my Ruger M77s have just grown on me. :grin:
I didn't intend to make it sound like a bash towards Remington Firearms.
McMillan stocks are wonderful, aren't they. :agree:  :grin:

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2004, 05:16:41 PM »
7 Mag.
I have a mod.700 in 280 rem out of Remingtons custom shop and i put the Mcmillem stock on it and its the sweetest thing i have shot in my fifty five years of shooting. When i take it out i have to be careful not to over dose on it. The trigger lets off at 2 3/4 lbs every time.
To answer your question YES those stocks make a world of difference.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2004, 03:43:08 AM »
Hey guys...these McMillan stocks...are they after-market stocks or do they just come from the custom shop? Some more info would be nice. Thanx
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2004, 05:23:18 AM »
Fishman,
In answer to your McMillen stock question, Now Pay Attention i'm only going to do this one time. The first thing you must do is REACH down in your pocket and drag out all that MOTH ball infested cash you have stored away, that you have hidden from you know who. Next you carefully slip
three franklins out and lay them aside, Now you can put the rest of your stash back. Next you find you a good catalog and look up McMillen stocks.
I think you will find them in Midway  If not almost all Gun rags will have something about McMillen stocks. ALL joking aside there is no comparing these stocks to the stocks that come on you Rifles. If you are having a problem with a hard kicking rifle put a McMillen stock on and see the difference. I think most people will agree with me on this one. My 280 rem that i love so much has almost no felt recoil since i put the McMillen stock on it. Good luck Fish..........Joe...........
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2004, 06:51:58 AM »
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there is no comparing these stocks to the stocks that come on you Rifles.


This is a fact!!! And depending on the catalog it may(will)take more than 3 Franklins. :)
If you have got the cash...BUY ONE!!!
I did and I like it more than the 3.5 Franklins I sent away for it. :)

Here is a link to their hunting line of rifle stocks.
http://mcmfamily.com/mfsinc_n/hunting.html

I do still love my Walnut though.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2004, 08:01:55 AM »
Thanks fellas. I sadly don't have the three Franklin's...but the mothball part is true :-D
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2004, 02:59:43 PM »
7Mag,
Do you belive that? A Talented young man from PA not having any franklins. I bet he has more money than Forrest Gump. Maybe we ought to take up a collection for the poor feller. Fishman you better get in here and defend yourself and your reputation. Y what will the boys say down at the pool hall. I better get out of here until it cools down a bit.
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2004, 03:01:20 PM »
Ssshh Joe....that was supposed to be under wraps  :wink: . I got some franklins...just not in the wallet...that's all  :-D
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2004, 03:37:17 PM »
Fishmano29
 I figgered you had the denero all rite just had to pick on you a little, Its the nature of the beast. All joking aside if you do have a rifle that gets a little out of control as far as the kicking goes, And you like the gun otherwise, I can almost bet you would like the McMillen stock. I have never heard any one bad mouth them...........Joe............
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2004, 04:12:50 PM »
Hi Joe!
I just cant get 7mmMags idea out of my head. What if we put a model 700 barrel on a ruger action!  :grin:

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2004, 05:30:04 PM »
Glance,
NO WAY, What 7Mag needs to do is go buy some more Remingtons, If we was playing cards he would have to leave cause he didn't have enough cards. heck he only has six cards to play with. maybe we can get Fishman
to loan 7Mag some franklins so he can get some more cards. OK thats enough of that stuff. I may get black balled for picking on people.
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2004, 05:46:09 PM »
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I just cant get 7Mags idea out of my head. What if we put a model 700 barrel on a ruger action!  :grin:

I am glad to see that someone else appreciates the receiver and action from my personal favorite bolt action rifle.:agree: :grin:

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What 7Mag needs to do is go buy some more Remingtons, If we was playing cards he would have to leave cause he didn't have enough cards. heck he only has six cards to play with..

If Remingtons were cards, I have more than six, just only have 6 that say Model 700. :wink:  :grin:

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maybe we can get Fishman
to loan 7Mag some franklins so he can get some more cards.

PLEASE DO!!! :agree:  :agree:  That way I can buy some more Rugers. :)  :-D :-D
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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2004, 11:59:24 AM »
Nah, that's okay 7Mag. The franklins are startin to get scarce in these parts :)  :-D . Mebe Joe could help ya out  :roll: . Maybe we should send some of our ideas to Remington...maybe they'll design some more products...or look at all of us like we got 3 heads.  :D
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2004, 01:41:41 PM »
Fishman,
I was gonna go down to the old folks home and borrow some money to send to 7mag but then he said he would take the money and buy one of the no name rifles, Why do i call them no name,,, Cuz my momma said not to say that word in public or i would get into trouble. I hate to admit that i have a few of them no name guns myself, In fact i'm ashamed to say this but i have quite a few of em. Let me go count them before i make any more statments. OK i counted 24 if i didn't leave any out, Most of them are single action pistols. Its darned hard to count them in the safes.
Well any way i won't pick on 7Mag. any more but i do have more Remington Rifles than any other kind. You Guys Have a good one................Joe............
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2004, 02:16:13 PM »
Yea I have a few of those too :roll: ....hmm...lemme see...NEF (oops..hope no one from NEF heard that :shock: ), Savage, Moosberg (ha ha...get it?), and I tink that be it. Traditions replacing the POS CVA within a few days...and the rest of the guns are Remington (only 2...I regret to say... :cry: ). But I must admit...the NEF almost had a place on the trap range, the Savage almost took a few squirrels, and the Moosberg took aim at crows. But...only the Remingtons did the job. The 870 knocked a few crows out of the sky and the 700 took my 8 point. Not to mention the 870 did a better number on the trap range than the NEF (first time w/ the NEF...only hit 2 CLAYS  :oops:. Next round I pulled out the 870...hit a pretty darn good 18/25. But then again, I was brand new to the NEF...possible pilot error)  Not blaming the guns for those missed kills...but it don't make em look good :eek:  :D
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2004, 02:23:13 PM »
Funny you should mention NEF, I took my $80 single shot out yesterday and blew a few dove out of the sky, but I did it using Remington shotgun shells, so hey, I guess Remington did it afterall. :)

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I was gonna go down to the old folks home and borrow some money to send to 7mag but then he said he would take the money and buy one of the no name rifles.

If you will give me some money, I promise I will buy a Remington...Honest. :grin:

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Most of them are single action pistols.

Or you can just send me one of them. :grin: Please. :grin:
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2004, 05:44:17 PM »
7Mag,
You woulde'nt want any of my old junk, They have all been modified like free spinning pawl, 2 1/2 lb. trigger smoooooooth trigger and all that silly stuff, Besides that they are not Remington MFG. How about some colts or FA.s. Wouldent you much rather have some old Sam Colts? Take a couple weeks off and come out to the land of Enchantment and we will do some shooting. We can shoot every thing from 17 to 458. There has to be one you like........Joe..........
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2004, 08:56:58 AM »
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Wouldent you much rather have some old Sam Colts?

 :agree:  :grin:  Now when talkin' about single action revolvers old Sam Colts truly are another language.

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Take a couple weeks off and come out to the land of Enchantment and we will do some shooting.

Don't tempt me, you may not be able to get rid of me once I got out there. :)  Especially because of the Mule Deer, Elk, Javelina, Coues, Puma, and the list still goes on and on and on like the Energizer bunny. :) How is the fishing? Is there a bear season? I have read that NM has a growing Bison Population too.

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We can shoot every thing from 17 to 458. There has to be one you like

A better way to say it is : There would not be one I don't like. :grin:

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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2004, 03:45:05 PM »
Hmm....mebe I'll have to take a trip to NM too. I can just hop in my million dollar private 747 take off from Avoca, PA and be in Santa Fe or Albequrque (or however u spell it :? ) NM in no time at all. I'll bring along some of my collections and we can all have a blast! :)  :eek:  Oh damn it, someone woke me up. :)  :-D  Have fun guys!!  :D
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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2004, 04:42:56 PM »
7Mag
Have the Fishman come by and pick you up and you can land your 747 here in Tucumcari and i'll run out to pick you guys up. Yep our Bear season is tied to the deer hunt, Don't forget to bring some Remingtons with you.

Fishman you was close it's ALBUQUERQUE.
I've been scouting out in the hills and looks like we are going to have a good crop of coyotes this year. You two have a good one and we will catch you later...........Joe..........
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2004, 04:52:52 PM »
Oh I dunno Joe, that'll be tough. And cost $$$. I mean, it ain't cheap to stop at airports ya kno. And besides, who says 7Mag likes to fly :roll: . I'll have to send em' on train (leave it to me, right?). Have a good one guys!  :D
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2004, 05:18:25 PM »
Fishman is right, I hate to fly, and the train...no thanks I like to be in control of my own Deathbird.  :)
I guess I can either weed eat around the '74 Lincoln Mark IV Continental thats out in the field, throw some spark plugs into the old 460, fix her up a bit and once I hit I-40W I will let that old boat sail and be there for you know it  :)

Or I could go ahead and fire up the old 490hp Trans Am that is sitting in the barn and pass everything 'cept a gas station....but that would be more expensive than paying Fishman to land his 747 in Nashville, but I do so hate to fly....

 :idea: But all the young hot honeys that are trying to get from Memphis to Hollywood :agree:  :P  and I-40W splits right through there... :)  :-D

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