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« on: August 31, 2004, 11:54:20 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2004, 02:40:50 PM »
If you can get them a fair trial, I'll support them by the neck with a rope if convicted.

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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2004, 03:03:09 PM »
It took us four years to recover from Clinton the Impeached,if Kerry gets in we do not have the where with all to do it again.Kerry is a dishonorable,phony,Treasonous,War Criminal [from his own lips] and a  SOS.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2004, 05:02:56 PM »
The only recovery from Clinton has been in taxes and (hopefully) the AW ban, which George has repeatedly promised to sign if it hits his desk, although he'd like to add background checks to private sales.

In all other ways, this nation has continued its downhill slide, and in many ways is accelerating. I agree with you on Kerry, but I'm finished with trying to pick the lesser of two evils. I voted for evil four years ago, won't be fooled again. When I see people getting arrested for showing up on public property at a Bush rally with an anti-Bush sign, when he teamed up with McLain last week to further try to silence free political speech, that's when I realize that he's as dangerous as Lincoln was.

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2004, 09:32:46 AM »
Mitch, you need to look again.

While Bush gets blamed for everything it is the Senate and the House of Representatives that are trampling all over you.   All Bush can do is sign or veto the bills that are sent to his desk.   Even executive orders can be overturned by congress if they feel the need.

I would suggest that we all think real hard about whom we send to the Senate and the House.   They are the ones that are sticking you in the back and they are the ones that YOU can do something about.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2004, 10:11:18 AM »
If you think the Republicans are too liberal I suggest you start local and work your way up to the House and Senate gettnig a Libertarian elected.  If you vote Libertarian for President you might as well vote for Kerry because thats what you will get.  It is plain ignorant and boneheaded to vote for a Libertarian for President because there is ZERO chance of them winning.  The Libertarian party needs to wake up and start attacking races they have a chance of winning like local and state then moving up to higher office as they gain power instead of screwing things up for all of us and getting Kerry elected.  Time to suck it up and do whats best for the country and your fellow shooters.  Despite whatever wrongs (real or imagined) the fact is that its either Bush or Kerry that will be in the Whitehouse so make your choice and vote accordingly.

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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2004, 11:02:22 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2004, 06:35:19 AM »
Quote from: Mitch in MI
The only recovery from Clinton has been in taxes and (hopefully) the AW ban, which George has repeatedly promised to sign if it hits his desk, although he'd like to add background checks to private sales.

Do you really think the terrorist attack 9/11 appeared out of nowhere and there weren't opportunities for Clinton to deal with this during his two term administration?  I lay a substantial share of the blame for letting the Al Qaeda threat fester until it exploded on Bill Clinton's shoulders.

Please also recall that it was Bill Clinton's administration that came up with a lame brained initiative to provide energy relief to N Korea in exchange for a promise that they would not develop nuclear weapons.  That was a lame brained piece of stategy if I ever heard of it.

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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2004, 09:57:50 AM »
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It is plain ignorant and boneheaded to vote for a Libertarian for President because there is ZERO chance of them winning.


You think that only the ignorant cast votes for candidates they believe in?
It isn't a horserace, and you don't get a prize for picking the winner. If that were the reason for voting, we could all agree to vote for Kerry and be glad we picked the winner, couldn't we?

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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2004, 10:20:18 AM »
Mitch,Kerry is a TRAITOR,WAR CRIMINAL,slackard,PHONY THAT WILL BE chastised IN THE NEXT WEEK FOR HIS ANTI-AMERICAN GROUP FOR THE assassination OF SENATORS THAT HE ATTENDED AND IS CONFIRMED BY THE FBI ,ALSO HIS MILITARY RECORDS WILL BE RELEAST.BUT HIS INABILITY TO LEAD ,FOLLOW OR GET OUT OF THE WAY RECORD WILL BURY HIM.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2004, 10:31:50 AM »
Yes it is ignorant of the reality of this election.  This is a race between two candidates.  Not three, not four - just two.  Anyone who thinks a third party candidate will do anything does not understand the reality of the election.  Libertarians do not have the base of voters to win.  Greens don't either.  What these fringe parties can do is however is to make the person FURTHEST from their views win the election.  Kerry has lied up and down about his gunowner support and WILL do everything he can to take your gun rights away if he is elected.  Bush said he would sign the AWB renewal if it made it to his desk.  Fact is it won't and he knows that and you should too.  All he did was disarm the Democrats of a major issue to go after him on.  This whole anti Bush thing by gunowners is like a brat kid taking his ball and going home because his feelings were hurt.  A vote for someone other than Bush is a vote for Kerry - that is the reality of this election and gun owners need to face the truth.

I'm not thrilled about Bush but I know the alternative is a lot worse.  The best thing we can do is elect representatives who will guard our rights and manage the damage that can be done.  I am sympathetic to the Libertarian viewpoint and am in fact registered as an Independant.  I am a realist however.  Voting Bush gets us 4 more years to get Federal shooters rights laws passed as well and rest assures Kerry will veto anything close to  shooters rights that makes it to his desk.

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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2004, 12:35:01 PM »
Is Bush perfect? No!...but no living person is!
 
  So, it is left to us to vote for the candidate would do,in most cases, the RIGHT THING.
  Honestly reviewing the situation, judging by his senate voting record and his post- Viet Nam performance......Kerry, given the chance, would almost always do the WRONG THING..

   A candidate running on the Libertarian, Green or People's party ticket cannot be elected, so they can do NOTHING..

    The answer, by simple deductive reasoning is...Bush in 04...
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2004, 02:18:54 PM »
Our President has my support. In November, I intend to vote for "W" once again.

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2004, 04:10:29 PM »
As said above Tennessee is BUSH country. Now yall get your houses in line. GW Bush, our savior!

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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2004, 12:55:59 PM »
Well, Kerry stated that allowing the ban to sunset was equal to removing police from streets and replacing them with AK-47's. There you have it, vote for him and you can start menting down your guns that you would hope to have in time of a terror crisis since we would have one if he voted for reducing the funding for our intellegence like he has in the past.
Oh yeah, and he voted against every weapon system that we wanted to develop, like the tomahawk missile.  And I don't feel safe having Kerry at the helm, since he missing all those intellegence briefings.

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2004, 02:24:48 PM »
Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!  Go G.W.
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2004, 03:43:51 PM »

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I am sorry Mitch, you are entitled to an opinion...
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2004, 09:50:39 PM »
Millions of Iraqui people now have an opinion also...that is pretty cool.  And when our sons and daughters come home from Iraq...will John Kerry and his buddies degrade these defenders of freedom and the very Democracy that you love?  Will they return to their homes and have to feel hated and that they are the scum of the earth?....just like John Kerry helped to welcome Home our Viet Nam Vets?
  I am also entitled to my opinion.....
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2004, 01:09:59 AM »
Kerry supports the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

http://www.channel3000.com/politics/3724911/detail.html

http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3915898

Oops, looks like Kerry was lying. Again.
Too bad Bush seems determined to paint Kerry as "too liberal to vote for" and then position himself 1/4" to the right of Kerry.

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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2004, 05:30:42 AM »
The Therapeutic Choice[/size]

A war for our lives, or a nuisance to our lifestyle?



Americans are presented with a choice in this election rare in our history.
This is not 1952, when Democrats and Republicans did not differ too much on the need to stay in Korea, or even 1968 when Humphrey and Nixon alike did not wish to withdraw unilaterally from Vietnam. It is more like 1972 or 1980, when a naïve McGovern/Dukakis worldview was sharply at odds with the Nixon/Reagan tragic acknowledgement of the need to confront Soviet-inspired Communism. Is it to be more aid, talk, indictments, and summits — or a tough war to kill the terrorists and change the conditions that created them?

Mr. Kerry believes that we must return to the pre-9/11 days when terrorism was but a "nuisance." In his mind, that was a nostalgic sort of time when the terrorist mosquito lazily buzzed about a snoring America. And we in somnolent response merely swatted it away with a cruise missile or a few GPS bombs when embassies and barracks were blown up. Keep the tribute of dead Americans low, and the chronic problem was properly analogous to law-enforcement's perpetual policing of gambling and prostitution. Many of us had previously written off just such naïveté, but we never dreamed that our suspicions would be confirmed so
explicitly by Kerry himself.

In the now-lost age of unperturbed windsailing and skiing, things were not
all that bad before al Qaeda overdid it by knocking down skyscrapers and a corner of the Pentagon — followed by George Bush's commensurate overreaction in Afghanistan and Iraq that brought on all the present messy and really bothersome cargo of IEDs, beheadings, and promises of dirty bombs to come. The Taliban and Saddam were, of course, bad sports. But really, going all the way over there to topple them, implant democracy, and change the status quo of the Middle East? Tsk, tsk, tsk — well, that was a bit much, was it not?

Terrorist killing, like the first World Trade Center bombing or the USS Cole, certainly was not seen as the logical precursor to 9/11 — the expected wages of a quarter century of appeasement that started with the weak Carter response to the Iranian hostages and was followed by dead soldiers, diplomats, and tourists about every other year. No, these were "incidents" like 9/11 itself — "law-enforcement" issues that called for the DA, writs, and stern prison sentences, the sort of stuff that barristers like Kerry, Edwards, Kennedy, and McAuliffe handle so well.

This attitude is part of the therapeutic view of the present struggle that
continually suggests that something we did — not the mass murdering out of the Dark Age — brought on our present bother that is now "the focus of our lives."   We see this irritation with the inconvenience and sacrifice once more reemerging in the Atlantic Monthly, Harpers, and the New York Times: We, not fascists and Islamist psychopaths, are blamed for the mess in Iraq, the mess in Afghanistan, the mess on the West Bank, and the mess here at home, but never credited with the first election in 5,000 years in Afghanistan or consensual government replacing autocracy in the heart of the ancient caliphate.

Sometimes our problems arise over our past failure to chastise the Russians over Chechnya. Or was it not enough attention to Mr. Arafat's dilemmas? Or maybe we extended prior support for corrupt sheiks? All that and more — according to rogue CIA "experts," best-selling authors, and the omnipresent Richard Clarke — earned us the wrath of the Islamists. Thus surely our past transgressions can be alleviated by present contrition, dialogue, aid, and policy changes of the European kind.

To all you of the therapeutic mindset, listen up. We can no more reason with the Islamic fascists than we could sympathize with the Nazis' demands over supposedly exploited Germans in Czechoslovakia or the problem of Tojo's Japan's not getting its timely scrap-metal shipments from Roosevelt's America. Their pouts and gripes are not intended to be adjudicated as much as to weaken the resolve of many in the United States who find the entire "war against terror" too big, or the wrong kind, of a nuisance.

Instead, read the fatwas. You hear not just of America's injustice in
Palestine or Chechnya — not to mention nothing about saving Kuwait, Bosnia, Kosovo or Afghanistan of the 1980s — but also of what we did in Spain in the 15th century and in Tyre, Gaza, and Jerusalem in the 12th. The mystery of September 11, 2001, is not that it happened, but that it did not quite happen when first tried in 1993 during Bill Clinton's madcap efforts to move a smiling Arafat into the Lincoln Bedroom and keep our hands off bin Laden. Only an American with a JD or PhD would cling to the idea that there was not a connection between Group A Middle Eastern terrorists who attacked the WTC in 1993 and Group B who finished the job in 2001.

A Kerry presidency, we know now, will go back to the tried and true
institutions so dear to the therapeutic mind that please the elite and sensitive of our society. How silly that most Americans are about through with the U.N.   Indeed, we Neanderthals want it relegated to something like the Red Cross tucked away at the Hague, if not on the frontlines in Nigeria or Bolivia. Yes, we dummies have seen enough of its General Assembly resolutions aimed at the only democracy in the Middle East, its promotion of rogue states such as Syria, Cuba, Iran, and Libya to human-rights watchdogs, its corrupt Oil-for-Food program, and its present general secretary and his role in nepotism and sweet-heart contracts at the expense of the Iraqi people. No surprise that a shaken perpetual-president Hosni Mubarak is calling for a U.N. conference on terror with wonderful Arab League logic: 'You kill Jews on your own soil, good; you kill them on
mine and lose me money, bad.'

The artists, musicians, and entertainers have also railed against the war. In the therapeutic mindset, the refinement and talent of a Sean Penn, Michael Moore, Al Franken, Bruce Springsteen, or John Fogerty earn respect when they weigh in on matters of state policy. But in the tragic view, they can be little more than puppets of inspiration. Their natural gifts are not necessarily enriched by real education or learning. Indeed, they are just as likely to be high-school or college dropouts and near illiterates, albeit with good memories, voices, and looks. The present antics of these influential millionaire entertainers should remind us why Plato banished them — worried that we might confuse the inspired creative frenzies of the artisans with some sort of empirical knowledge. But you can no more sing, or write, or act al Qaeda away than the equally sensitive novelists and intellectuals of the 1930s or 1940s could rehabilitate Stalin.

And then there are the new green billionaires who no longer worry about the struggle to make any more money, much less about state, federal, and payroll taxes that can eat up half of a person's income. A George Soros may have made his pile by trying to destroy the British financial system, but now he wishes to leave the world safe for currency traders to come by defeating George Bush.  The up-from-the-bootstraps struggle to create the dough for the Heinz fortune is a century past and forgotten — thus the post-capitalist Teresa in her private jet and John Kerry on his $500,000 power boat can lecture us about Americans' shameless oil profligacy and George Bush's blood for oil gambit in Iraq.

Our mainstream media also cannot quite believe we are at war with evil people who wish us dead — something like the crises that have faced all
civilizations at one time or another. Instead, to ponder Rathergate or the recent ABC memo advocating bias in its reporting is to fathom the arrogance of the Enlightenment, and the learned's frustration with those of us less-gifted folk who don't quite wish to follow where they lead us. Such anointed ones have taken on the burden of saving us from George Bush and his retrograde ideas. After all, who believes that anyone would really wish to reinstate a mythical caliphate, a Muslim paradise of sharia, gender apartheid, and theocracy spreading the globe through Islamic nukes and biological and chemical bombs? How one dimensional and unsophisticated.

Meanwhile most Americans have already quietly made up their minds. They think the Democratic party is run not by unionists, farmers, miners, truckers, and average folk, but by those rich enough not to have to make a living, and who wish out of either guilt or noblesse oblige to force the dumber upper middle class to be more sensitive, generous, or utopian. Americans also believe Europe has lost its way and is bogged down in a hopeless and soon-to-be scary task of legislating by fiat heaven on earth. We of the tragic persuasion wish them well with Turkey and their unassimilated Islamic populations, but we don't want our hurtful combat troops there after 60 years of subsidized peacekeeping.  Americans also don't care much about the Nobel prizes anymore — not when a Jimmy
Carter is praised after trying to undermine his own president on the eve of
war, and not when the most recent peace-prize winner rants on that AIDS is a Western-created germ agent unleashed to hurt Africa but silent about $15 billion in American aid to stop what her own continent is spreading.

John Kerry is probably going to lose this election, despite the "Vote for
Change" rock tour, despite Air America, despite Kitty Kelley's fraud hyped on national media, despite Soros's moveon.org hit pieces, despite Fahrenheit 9-11, despite the Nobel Prizes and Cannes Film Awards, despite Rathergate and ABC Memogate, despite the European press, despite Kofi Annan's remonstrations, despite a barking Senator Harkin or Kennedy, despite the leaks of rogue CIA Beltway insiders, despite Jimmy Carter's sanctimonious lectures, despite Joe Wilson, Anonymous, and Richard Clarke — and more. You all have given your best shot, but I think you are going to lose.

Why? Because the majority of Americans does not believe you. The majority is more likely to accept George Bush's tragic view that we really are in a war for our very survival to stop those who would kill us and to alter the landscape that produced them — a terrible war that we are winning.

When all is said and done, it still is as simple as that.

— Victor Davis Hanson is a military historian and a senior fellow at the
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2004, 09:43:44 AM »
Kerry is one of the most anti-second amendment senators to have ever walked the floore of the senate.

Anyone, worth his salt, that would vote for Kerry thinking he is pro-2nd amendment, has lost sight of reality or is trolling for attention.
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« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2004, 02:55:25 AM »
Go Bush!!