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Offline JBMauser

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PP with gummed labels and other paper.
« on: September 04, 2004, 12:34:12 PM »
Some time back in a discussion of tape and labels for patching material someone on the Net said you had run some test with favorable results on patches other than air mail paper and rag bond.  Was this info correct?  can you relate your findings or opinions?  Thanks in advance.  JB

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PP with gummed labels and other paper.
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2004, 11:16:35 AM »
I'm delighted to!  I don't list the correct bullets in my current catalog but can still make them on any rifle bullet I offer.  Special grooves are required to do it the way I did.  Yet, there is no reason not to try gummed computor labels on any bullet designed for paper patch.  It may work, and it isn't dangerous.

First off, the reason I tried gummed labels was that I could NOT wrap paper on a bullet like more nimble fingered people do!  

My method uses a specially grooved bullet which has lead rubbing the bore up front.  This eliminates damage while carrying loaded rounds in a pocket.
The forward groove is large so the paper tucks down out of harms way, followed by however many grooves are required to cover the shank.  The base is flat.

Patches are cut with square ends, rather than angled like conventional patches, with the length just short of two complete turns.

Permanant labels must be used, not the peel off type, and the patches MUST be dried well in a sunny window for a few days or in a low temp oven for 8 hours or so, to lock the otherwise slippery adhesive.

The patches aren't tucked in or twisted on the tail, but are trimmed flush with a sharp knife, then the bullets are sized like a normal plainbase cast bullet, and lube put into the shallow grooves.

Pressures are VERY low and speeds very high, compared to jacketed.  It pushed 170 gr bullets at 3200 fps in a 30-06 with a case full of Win 760 powder.  The bore is not just clean, it stays shiny bright, and all my slugs went into one hole in a wet and melting showbank at a bit over 100 yards.

I haven't had the opportunity to use them a lot, because of my work load, but no bullet of any kind that I've ever used, could match the speed of these.  I've sold quite a few molds for these with good reports from all customers.  One bumped his 22 cal bullets in jacketed bullet swaging dies and got one hole groups with speeds well over jacketed in , as I recall, a 223 rifle.
Veral Smith