Skidboot77 The swarvoski scopes have some of the shortest eye relief in the business. They always require the shooter to mount the scope so it is at full view when you bring the rifle up, then they tighten down. This has helped me with any brand I have had and the eye relief issues seems to go away. I guess I can shoot a deer rifle if the Swarvoski's are on all the big calibers 375 and up. It is when we start to try to find the full view in the scope that we run into trouble and the eye relief comes into play. See if it works for you. Buckfever