I finally broke down and purchased some Hogdon 777 in the FFG variety. I loaded up my Pedersoli 12ga double with about 70 grains of it, over powder card, wonder wad on top of that, 1 1/8 oz of lead 7 1/2 shot, and an over shot wad. I didn't really paper pattern this load, but instead just went to shooting clay birds and did I ever SMOKE EM. This stuff really burns clean and loading up again was easy, no soot at all. No stink when cleaning either. I think I like this stuff a lot. I wonder though, why Walmart tries to rob us for it. I bought it at Scheel's All Sports in Omaha NE for $19.95 and it's around $25 a lb. at Walmart.