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jh45gun · « **Reply #30 on:** September 24, 2004, 06:54:31 PM »

Cam just some friendly advice use of the F word here even if it is disguised is against the rules. Just so you know. Jim

powderman · « **Reply #31 on:** September 25, 2004, 03:41:12 AM »

KEVIN303. No, not all. Some are really out in left field though. I met some folks in Alabama 2 years ago, they ran a motel and came from India. The man had a picture above his door that reminded me of a cartoon character, that was one of his Gods. He had even more Gods on his mantle, they were jars full of various herbs. His wife was different, her God was a potted plant sitting at the edge of her little flower and herb garden. In reality, they were probably closer to knowing God than any of these muslim extremists.
CAM69CONV. Being a nice guy won't get you to Heaven in my opinion, salvation is much more than that. Do I think you must go to church to go to Heaven? No, but for me, I enjoy going and hearing Gods word and associating with Christian people. I enjoy good old fashioned Gospel music too, it lifts my spirits. I used to make up every excuse under the sun NOT to go to church, but now, I look forward to it. I don't always hear what I want, but I always hear what I need, it charges my battery, so to speak, and gives me the strength to face the coming week. If church is not your cup of tea, that's your business, as for me, I enjoy it. I am living proof of the power of prayer. In 98 my appendix ruptured, gangrene had set in, and the drs told my wife I'd probably die and should have already been dead, but God saw fit to let me live. Just one year ago I had bypass surgery. The docs did 5 bypasses + repaired 2 that were faulty from birth. I died on the table, but once again God intervened on my behalf. He has allowed me to live for a reason, I don't quite know what it is, but maybe it was for me to help spread his word, I don't know. I have to leave for work now, I'll see you all tonight. POWDERMAN.

kevin.303 · « **Reply #32 on:** September 25, 2004, 12:44:03 PM »

well powderman, i'm glad to here that. i also noticed that you made the distiction between regular muslim and extremist. i don't think anyone would really have much of a problem with your regular everyday muslim, it's just the extremists painting every one with the same brush. many folks have the opinion that you southerners are all inbred klan member hicks, but from everyone i've met on this board, nothing could be further from the truth. just one of those cases of being stereotyped. i blame that kind of thing on the media for the most part.

there was a time a few years back when i wasn't sure if i belived in god or not. but like you powderman, i had a an experiance that changed that. my grandmother, who i was very close to died in 2002.it wasn't long after that i heard someone say that when you reach heaven you are reunited with your family who had passed on before. i sure hope so, i want to go fishing with my grandfather again! i'm not an overly church going person at the moment, but that will probably change in time.of the several denominations i've experienced i've yet too find one that appeals to me.

twodollarpistol · « **Reply #33 on:** September 25, 2004, 02:09:00 PM »

Mr cam69..If you choose to beleave that rocks can fly, or any thing else you beleave is just fine. As long as you understand that your beliefs have absolutely no bearing on reality. I KNOW that my God lives and is the one true and living God, and I know that if you dont accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you WILL spend eturnity in the lake of fire prepaired for Satan and his followers. This is certanily not my wish for you or any one else so please dont misunderstand my words. Christ came and died for us all, even the muslems, and it is not Gods will that any should perish. But unfortunately many will. That is such a shame because Christ already did the hard part and the wages of sin have already been paid. It is only necessary that one beleave on Him and accept Him. He IS RISEN and does sit at the right hand of the Father as our advocate. Now this is the thing. You said that you love your family, and I know that you do. Well if there were only a 1% chance that I am correct and you dont give your children or your wife the opportunity to here the gospel and have the chance to accept and receive Jesus, if by your example and your opinion they decide never to accept Him, if I am correct, and believe me I am, then you are risking the ones you love to an eturnity in hell fire. What a terrible risk. Sir if you do not believe what I say is true, one day you absolutely will. And i assure you when you do, you will remember the words you are reading now. It is my most sincere prayer that you and your precious loved ones do come to accept him before it is eturnally too late. I am not sitting in judgement of anyone. That is Gods job and He will fulfill it. I do however judge wickedness and evil and i do recognize the author. I am by no means setting myself up as an example to anyone. I am a mess. But my name is in the Lambs book of life and my future is secure as well as my entire family. What a blessing and joy it is to be absolutely shure.
Im sorry I jumped into the pulpit and started preaching but I just cant help it sometimes and I love to talk about my God. I hope I have not offended anybody.
God Bless

cam69conv · « **Reply #34 on:** September 25, 2004, 03:21:37 PM »

Ok guys,, All religion set aside,,My main goal was to stipulate that no one knows who is right or wrong FOR SURE and to judge someone because of thier race, creed, or color or religion is WRONG PERIOD...What I read in the first posts just flat out riled me...Basicly I was getting the impression of the " KILL UM ALL,,,LET GOD SORTUM OUT" mentality..This grand YOUNG country the good ole US of A for which I fought for..Shed blood for..Killed for..was FOUNDED on the seperation of such mentality...FREEDOM FOR ALL...To sit in judgement of someone simply because they are muslim is flat out BS and yes I will voice that opinion to ANYONE...I will fight to the death in a flat out second to protect the freedom of my countrymen no matter what religion they happen to be!!! Like Kevin said...Its only about 1% of the "muslim" faith that is doing this crap and the rest want them eradicated just as much as we do!!! If I see that mentality in person you can damn well bet someone will have a fight on thier hands just as quick as you can blink..I was raised and trained as a warrior and am protective by nature..Freedom and Honor to all

powderman · « **Reply #35 on:** September 25, 2004, 04:14:21 PM »

CAM69CONV. I'm not really sure what put the burr under your saddle but I haven't seen anybody here propose wholesale slaughter of an entire nation of people. I'm sure there are peaceful muslims that want to harm nobody, but I believe the percentage of bad ones is much larger than you said, 1% I believe you said. That isn't even close. The so called snipers, malvo and the other one, recent convert to islam. The 2 bit punk who fragged his own army buddies, another recent convert to islam. Get my drift?
You are evidently not a religious man, thats ok, God gave us all free will. You have made your choice, I've made mine. You seem to think that I am trying to force my religion on you, I'm not. I try to lead a Christian life, sometimes I fail, but I try. Christians are supposed to witness to others, thats all I'm trying to do here. It's a Christians duty to witness to non believers about Gods love. I've done that. The ball is now in your court. How you play, or what you do with your life is your business and responsibility, my obligation is fullfilled.
What I said about those in fallujah stands as I said it. I am looking at this realistically. Reread the post, I said nothing about all of islam, only saddams supporters. I still believe islam is a false religion, but that of course is just my opinion. No need to get all upset. I thank you Sir for your service to our great nation. POWDERMAN.

cam69conv · « **Reply #36 on:** September 25, 2004, 05:37:48 PM »

Well powder then you must not read your own posts " they hide behind NON combatents in the hopes that they will have a high body count to make us look bad..well we should help them in thier goal to be marters" WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU??? Do you actually think that alot of these NON COM personel WANT to be in this crap??? Have you EVER seen combat powder??? I have first hand experiance in many different countries and have seen what these people do...They hide behind innocent women and children because they are to afraid of dieing and yes 9 times out of 10 the people they are hiding behind ARE innocent...Unless you have been there or ARE there then how do you KNOW that these people that are in these cities want them there??? How do you know that they arent just scared as hell because they are unarmed and are basicly being held hostage??? All Im seeing is the same old killum all let God sortum out..I hate the sob's too but that doesnt make it right to kill innocent people...You asked me what the burr in my saddle was well its mentalities like that...I prided myself on one thing in the years that I served....One shot One kill....Only my assigned target period...The blow them all to hell mentality needs to stop on ALL sides..We are getting way to aggressive with this subject so Im gonna shut tha hell up before I get all worked up...Good luck to us all

powderman · « **Reply #37 on:** September 26, 2004, 04:04:55 AM »

cam69conv. It's plain you are not understanding what I say so I believe it would be best if we could just agree to disagree. POWDERMAN. :? :? :? :?

RIFLERANGER · « **Reply #38 on:** September 26, 2004, 12:37:50 PM »

Why does it always come down to religion

As a Hebrew, or Jew for the modernists, I have no doubt that Christians do not hold the monopoly on heaven. G-ds' kingdom was offered to his chosen people as the reward for a virtuous life, and we don't think for one second that Jesus changed any of that.
I am sorry to hear that my Christian brothers believe that only through Jesus can one be with G-d.
I guess we will all find out in the end as there is no way to prove it.
Actually, I am convinced that all people who have led proper lives, i.e. being good to fellow man, being charitable, etc. will end up with G-d.
Just my .03
Ranger

powderman · « **Reply #39 on:** September 26, 2004, 01:17:10 PM »

RIFLERANGER. I hope you are right. The statement about Jesus being the way to Heaven was made by him, not me. Of all the people on this earth, the Jews should know that Jesus Christ was, and is, our Lord and saviour. Somehow throughout history the Jews seem to have lost a good part of history. I don't understand how you can acknowledge the life of Jesus Christ without knowing that he was then, and is now, our redeemer, or the Messiah.
I hope you are right my friend. All I have done is post my beliefs, I have no intentions of judging anyone. Each of us makes our own decisions. YES, I believe that the Jews were, and are, Gods chosen people. All of the wars against insurmountable odds that Israel has fought against these vicious, Godless, subhumans over the years should be proof to the world that God islooking out for tiny Israel. I meant no flame, and appologize if I offended you Sir. POWDERMAN.

twodollarpistol · « **Reply #40 on:** September 26, 2004, 02:08:07 PM »

Im sorry if the preserved and inspired word of God ( and yes His name does contain three letters) doesn't fit what some of you choose to believe. That still doesn't change anything. The Bible says that Jesus is the truth, the life, and the way. NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM. Guys, this is not my opinion but the word of God, if you are not born again you shall not see the Kingdom of Heaven----period. If the virgin Mary herself, had not received Jesus as Lord she would not have made it into Heaven either. Nothing I have said is against the Jews. My God said that He would bless them that bless you, and curse them that curse you. I pray for the Jewish people, and there suffering, all the time. God has his own deal with them. They are His chosen people and He loves them.
Also I dont see anybody advocating "kill them all" (muslims) on this forum, but if some of you bother to do a little research you will find that the koran does indeed instruct the muslims to kill the infidel (non believer) where ever you find him. That is there crap instructing them to kill us all and let God sort us out. They attacked us and began this war, and make no mistake- it is a war, and now we find ourselves in the position of fight them over there or fight them here. But be sure we will have to fight them. I prefer over there. They are radical and they are not going to just forget about it and go away. They fully intend to kill us and we all need to take that threat seriously. It may be as some have said that it is only a small percent of the muslims who are guilty of these acts, but I sure dont see the rest of them taking a stand against there actions. Do you? And I dont mean one or two talking heads on a news conference reading a well prepared statement, I mean taking a stand and shouting and demanding that the terrorist attacks stop. They started this war and it was because of there religion, not mine. My God advocates that we love all men, not to kill them where we find them so we can get my virgins in Heaven. He died for them too.

powderman · « **Reply #41 on:** September 26, 2004, 03:35:25 PM »

I don't just see the sickness, cancer, or whatever you want to call islam, on the news or in the papers. About 3 years ago my former favorite neice was talked into converting to islam. She immediately turned her back on her Christian family and Jesus Christ. She has denounced Christianity, her family, and former church. This garbage goes on in every part of the United States. I feel sorry for these people drawn in to this sickness, and the ones that suffer because of it. POWDERMAN.

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #42 on:** September 26, 2004, 03:42:48 PM »

Do you see or hear a Muslim Cleric denouncing or negoitating for those beheaded?

powderman · « **Reply #43 on:** September 26, 2004, 04:40:23 PM »

WIZARD. No Sir, I do not, and thats sad. POWDERMAN. :? :? :? :?

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #44 on:** September 26, 2004, 05:00:04 PM »

Powder,do you see Jess the negotiator Jackson out freeing the captives?

powderman · « **Reply #45 on:** September 26, 2004, 05:14:16 PM »

WIZARD. I never thought about that, but he hasn't said a word. POWDERMAN. :? :? :? :? :? :?

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #46 on:** September 26, 2004, 05:31:43 PM »

Louie the lip Farakan?Igot more but my point is made.

Graybeard · « **Reply #47 on:** September 26, 2004, 05:37:12 PM »

I prefer to stay out of these religious arguments (which is what this seems to be turning into) as my ferver some times leads me to do what I tell you guys not to in them.

But calmly I'm going to enter and then get the heck back out. I too am a born again Christian. I too believe what the Bible says regarding Jesus being the way to Heaven and to sit with GOD.

But as I see it that is NOT the ONLY way for jews or Hebrews or whateve they wish to be called regardless of what anyone else calls them. They are GOD's chosen. For them I believe there are two paths to Heaven. One is the easy street. Just accept Jesus as Saviour and they are in. Or they can take the hard road as they always have and still do. They can get there thru leading a virtuous life and following the Commandments GOD gave to Moses for them. But man that's a tough row to hoe, getting there by earning it. Especially when the easy road is open.

But I do understand their keeping to what was before Christ Jesus came to offer us an easy path to Heaven. It is their traditional way and it was offered to them first and it is the way they KNOW will get them there. That it will there is no doubt in my mind. If only they can do as commanded.

I've often said here at GBO and in other places I feel the end times are drawing near. The GODless muslims are making far more progress toward those times than most seem ready or willing to admit. They cannot annilate Isreal, GOD will not allow it. He will allow them to be sorely tested and punished for their failings. But he will never let them be anniliated. When the time draws so near to that happening they will again see the light. They will turn to HIM and HE will save them.

When, how and why all this will happen is it not for any of us to know. I do think tho many who are alive today very well may see it come to pass. I fear the next time a democrap is elected to the Presidency of the US it will be the event that kicks off the end times. Things will go down hill fast. The death toll will rise like it has never ever risen before. But some how thru it all GOD's chosen will come out on top. We'll see the events of Revelations revealed to us.

For those of you not among GOD's chosen if you aren't in the LAMB's BOOK OF LIFE, well sorry for ya. But the gates of hell will be open wide to accept you.

I now step down from the pulpit once again and return quietly to the side lines. Fuss and argue as you like. Religion is an open topic at GBO. Just do so politely within the rules I've set up. That's all I ask.

Those of you not Christian and not Jewish who think you are still a shew in for Heaven feel free to believe as you wish. GOD gave us all the free will to chose for ourselves. I suspect he knew from before we were born which path we'd take. But he has still given us the choice. We have no one but ourselves to blame if we chose wrongly.

This is what I believe to be so. You may believe what you wish.

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #48 on:** September 26, 2004, 06:31:23 PM »

Beard and all,it does not make any difference what ones religion is,it is only a religious War from their standpoint,we,must be vigilant and strong from a none Muslim position.

powderman · « **Reply #49 on:** September 26, 2004, 06:32:13 PM »

GRAYBEARD. Good post Sir. I really enjoy being able to discuss this with several different mindsets and be polite about it. I've been guilty in the past of going overboard. There was a certain antagonist that really got under my skin and brought out the worst in me. That poster has been quiet for awhile and I've really enjoyed being able to discuss various subjects like the rational adults that we are. I tend to get emotional on several subjects, God is one of them. I worked in a liquor store for 8 long years. I was able to witness to folks that normal everyday Christians would never meet, or want to. Some of those people are now in church. One guy in particular told me that he hated people like me. I said, what do you mean. He said, you Christian types, I bet your old house needs repair, I said yes it does. He said, I bet you have a lot of bills, I said yes, I do. He said, look at that old truck you drive, it's a mess. I said, yes, but it gets me where I need to go and it's paid for. Then he said, every time something goes wrong you blame the devil for it. He said, look at me, pulling a wad of bills out of his pocket, I got plenty of money, I got a new house, I got 2 new cars andI don't believe in God. Why isn't the devil bothering me? I said, because he's already got you. He got really angry and left. About a month later he came in and asked me to pray for his dying father, which of course I did. It's nice to be able to discuss this in a polite manner. POWDERMAN.

kevin.303 · « **Reply #50 on:** September 26, 2004, 06:45:12 PM »

:-D good one :-D

even though i totally disagree with most of this thread i see no reason why we can't argue it in a polite manner.i keep saying " i'm not going to look at it cause it irritates me", but i'm drawn like a moth to a flame...

cam69conv · « **Reply #51 on:** September 26, 2004, 07:03:23 PM »

Well Powder If you were refering to ME as "the antagonist" then I shall answer that in the manner in which it was given...# 1 I was being quiet because this subject...(the subject that it was started as) gets under my skin...If you go back and actually READ the first 6 or so posts and if you are this God fearing person that you claim to be then maybe you will see what I was seeing...I do whole heartedly agree that there is a problem with the way things are being handled over there and yes I believe some stronger measures should be employed...But bombing whole cities just because there are some bad guys in there isnt the way...Im sorry if you dont feel that innocent lives should be spared in war but I DO..Again I pose this question to you since you so conviently avoided it previously...Have you ever saw combat?? Have you ever taken a life of another human being?? It is easy to sit over here and say ya'll should do this or that but it is a whole different world when your actually there..You can talk religion all you want and your beliefs are your buissness as are mine. But until you have actually had to come face to face with killing another human being ( and I wouldnt wish that for anyone ) or been in an actuall combat situation ( again I wouldnt wish for that either ) then how could you know what you are talking about?? I do understand everyone is riled up about the things these guys have done but again I say this...Blowing cities full of non com's isnt the way to do it...We stand at the brink of Nuclear war as it is and I for one dont like some of the people that have nuke tech already...Sometimes people need to think more before they open thier mouths..Good luck

Graybeard · « **Reply #52 on:** September 26, 2004, 07:13:35 PM »

I think I can say with 100% certainty it was NOT you to whom he was referring but rather to a nemisis from long before he ever heard of you or GBO for that matter. A war of their own if you will that seems to keep trying to find its way to GBO but which I refuse to allow here.

I think he said somewhere above the two of you would just have to agree to disagree. Might have been another he referred to as I'm going on memory here.

Let's not assume you've been attacked unless directly quoted or referred to by name. Personal attacks are absolutely NOT allowed at GBO.

twodollarpistol · « **Reply #53 on:** September 27, 2004, 12:46:28 AM »

Greybeard and Powderman
I too love to proclaim the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and I enjoy your positions on it. We may not totally agree on every single point but we are close enough. We do agree that He was sent to pay for our sins and IS risen and DOES live today. I just spoke with him this morning. He is our advocate with the Father, and I am so thankful for that. We all know the wages of sin is death and as I have said before, I know I am a mess, and I could never cover the cost myself. The Bible is plain,"man is not saved by works, lest any should boast". I am so thankful for the Grace of God. But the Word also says that "all will not hear" and as sad as it is, Hell will be plenty full of those that refuse. I am certainly not judging anybody. I cant. I am just facing the facts. But I will always continue to pray for those who have not received Him.
As far as all the innocent people that are in danger. We are not the ones who have placed them in that danger. It is there own people who are doing it. Are we supposed to allow them to attack us and kill our wives and children and then hold our fire because the run and hide behind there own people. They aint going away and if there own people dont want to protect them, why dont they give them up? If only 1% are the bad ones as someone has stated, why cant the 99% overpower them and put them out of business. Mabe it is because they believe in the same teachings of islam and are willing to be shields, and yes even die for allah. The dont seem to have any trouble strapping explosives to themselves or there children and becoming a human bomb to kill us. Remember they think they are going to get them virgins. Dont know what the women get.
But these are radical and desperate people and this is a holy war to them and as I have stated before, they are not just going to pick up there marbles and go home. I cant quote word for word but I understand that even there koran says that they will awaken an great eagle that will rise up and destroy them. And Im afraid they are correct. I am afraid that is what it will take, If God tarries that long. And Im in agreement with Greybeard that we are the Revelation generation and these are the last days.
God Bless

powderman · « **Reply #54 on:** September 27, 2004, 03:30:35 AM »

cam69conv. I was in no way referring to you Sir, I feel that you have conducted yourself in a gentlemanly manner. If you took offense I apologize. Graybeard knows what I meant. POWDERMAN.

cam69conv · « **Reply #55 on:** September 27, 2004, 04:06:05 AM »

kk then Powder,
Just checkin as it seemed I was the only one in dissagreement with SOME and I repeat SOME of the things said on this post

RIFLERANGER · « **Reply #56 on:** September 27, 2004, 04:53:00 AM »

Powder, never offense taken from you, I know where you and the others stand on JC and what He brings to your table so to speak.
As it has been said many times before, we should agree to disagree.
I think the focus of this post should really be what is the best way to deal with radical Islam.
I agree that we can't really go blowing up entire cities, but on the other hand as has been posted, these "civilians" are hiding the radicals and taking care of them as they are called to do in the Q'uran. I would think that this is aiding and abetting of the enemy and should draw the ultimate punishment as they are not truly civilians anymore..
I know what those POS are up to, they are trying to get us to do just that so they can spread the word of the jihad and fan the flames.
My "vision" goes something like this:
Eventually more and more muslims will rise up to fight the perceived jihad until it boils down to the Christians / Hebrews against the muslims.
It will be the final battle between good and evil, and of course we all know the ending.
It is going to get much much worse before it begins to get better.
I still want to behead those bastages who see fit to do so themselves.
Ranger off Rant

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #57 on:** September 27, 2004, 05:04:32 AM »

Ranger,how are you these days?Iraq is the crucible for this war and the drawing of insurgence to it keeps the rest of the world safe.After this election---if it goes right we will tighten the noose to close off all air.

powderman · « **Reply #58 on:** September 27, 2004, 06:43:02 AM »

RIFLERANGER. Well said Sir. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #59 on:** September 28, 2004, 02:55:35 PM »

GB, Ranger and Powderman are all speaking with enlightenment..
For one unacquainted with eschatology; they are worth listening to.
Yes, Ranger...it looks more and more like itr will be Jews and Christians against the terrorist factions of Islam, however large a percentage of Islam that faction will be....
I do believe, again based on eschatology, that much of "old Europe", will NOT be with us...look at the hard time they give our President when he refuses to take The Palestinian side against Israel.
One reason things will go rapidly down hill if a Dumacrat is elected, is because they (Kerry?) will probably will turn their back on Israel...
A prediction!....! IF THE U.S. TURNS THEIR BACK ON ISRAEL, GOD WILL TURN HIS BACK ON THE U. S. !!
You can take that to the bank!

Someone, in an earlier post said that God does have a middle initial in his name.
I expect they are not familiar with Jewish belief ....
They believe that God's name is too holy to be spoken so simply, so familiarly...somewhat like "using his name in vain"..
I am not so sure but that we born-again Christians should be reserving such awe and wonder for him, and follow the same practice!
Even as children, most of us are taught not to refer to our earthly father by his first name....how much more reverent should we be with Holy God's name....selah...

I know that the only way to heaven FOR ME is through Jesus Christ' I will not judge others, especially not God's chosen people...

"Now we see through a glass darkly..." I Cor 13:12

We are now seeing certain things in seemingly greater profusion than ever before...Huricanes (whirlwinds), earthquakes, pestilences (eg aids,SARS, West Nile etc.), earthquakes today and more coming soon, Volcano in Japan, Mt St Helens awakening again. (Matt 24)
Scripture tells us that Satan's people will kill us (Christians) and think they are doing their God a favor..sound familiar?
Beheading is one of Satan's children's favorite way of killing us,,(Rev20:4)
I do not accuse the Islamic radicals of being God's servants...they indict themselves...they indict themselves by choosing to be enemies of God's chosen people and those that have been grafted into His family...