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« on: September 17, 2004, 04:08:11 AM »
Hi guy`s  :D
   Here`s an interesting story that I came upon yesterday, Sept 16, 04.
First of all, I want to set the story up for you. Its going to be hard to believe for those that have never seen a Bigfoot, or believe in them. Out here in the boondocks where I live, I have had several Bigfoot sightings, (I have lived here now for 17 years). Some of the story`s I have put on this site only. Anyhow here is the story.
    I went to visit a neighbor yesterday, that lives down in the hollow`s, about a mile from me. These are real hillbilly`s. Affectionaly, I call them that name, cause they are honest, hardworking, live by the old world standards, and won`t for nothing. They are the type of people (they have a camp of 3 family`s down  there), that could weather a world melt down, cause they have nothing. There use to living that way. They can make or  build a car from scratch, from empty beer can`s lying around. They poach a deer now and then, only if they are hungry. They alway`s ask me if they come and fish in my strip pits, for fish to eat. I alway`s give them permission and they always bring me some fish to eat also, after they have done fishing. All of them have the long hair and long beards. All drive old beat up pickups and carry rifles all the time. When they come to visit, they scare my wife, because of their rough look`s. There women folk and kids are just as desperate looking, but clean and freshly scrubbed. Us men folk will sit outside on the bare ground in a circle and pass the moonshine. They will sometimes bring store bought but mainly its moonshine. Now I don`t drink, but they know this, and its just a drink or two, that I take to not insult them. If anybody came upon this scene of 8 or 10 guys sitting around in a circle passing the moonshine bottle, all with long hair and beards, with rifles, at their side, they would think they stepped into a time warp, and was entering a scene around 1910, rural
Okla. They are all hunters, and nothing scares them, except for one night. :eek:
    They was telling me about a coon hunt they was on, in the area of Foyil, Okla in 1974. They was about 2 or 3 miles east of Foyil, in some rugged strip-pits, and very hilly. There was a full moon out, and the coon dogs had hit another hot trail. (They had already got 3 coon`s, and they wanted one more before they went home). By the way, they eat the coons, and tan the hides, to sell for money. It was about 1 Oclock in the morning and all of a sudden they smelled something dead. They thought it probably was a old dead cow, that had been dead for a long time, cause of the stink. Well the dogs, came back to them, in fright and wouldn`t leave their side. They had never had an experience like that before from their dogs, and couldn`t figure what was happening. They said it got deadly silence. All of a sudden, something came walking real fast towards them. It was breaking branches, and busting the brush. No snarling or growls, just a fast walk towards their direction.  They shined their lights in the direction the noise was coming from .At 50 yards, they saw these red eyes, about 8 feet off the ground. The dogs, ran for the truck, the men ran for the truck, except for Don, He is only 12 years old, and scared. He opens up on the creature with his 22 and fires 17 bullets at the dark 8 ft creature with red glowing eyes. The animal never groans, or makes a noise, just keeps coming. He then draws his 357 pistol and emptys the six rounds at the creature. ( remember he is only 12 years old, but like I said earlier, these are hill people). He then runs for the truck also. They said they never went back to that area again to hunt at night.

My question to them was did you think any of the bullets, made contact? Don said he dont think he hit anything cause he was scared and he started shooting at it when they first saw it at 50 yards, away and it keep coming towards them.

I believe these hill people`s story. They dont have a computor, all of them never finished past the 7th grade that I know of. They never told anyone else this story but me. They do have other stories of other of their friends tha thave encountered the creature or creature`s but I will post them as I find them out.

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2004, 06:26:11 PM »
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My question to them was did you think any of the bullets, made contact? Don said he dont think he hit anything cause he was scared and he started shooting at it when they first saw it at 50 yards, away and it keep coming towards them.


It's possible that some of the bullets hit...but I don't know what good it would have done if they did. I've never seen Bigfoot, but I watched a really interesting special about "him" on the Discovery Channel. People were allowed to present their case about why Bigfoot exists. Two most compelling bits to me were the analysis of the Patterson footage, where you can see big muscles moving under Bigfoot's skin, and second most compelling was the dermal ridges (fingerprints) found on bigfoot's plaster foot casts that people make after BF walks through the area. That's why I'm more inclined to believe in him than, say, 5 years ago...cause I've never seen one.

As to shooting at something in the dark, I've had more mundane experiences than shooting at BF. Two dogs that attacked my cat one evening and a skunk that tried to climb my wall. Both times with a pistol in dark conditions. On the occasion when I shot at the two dogs, my anxiety level was pretty high. I can't imagine what your friend would have felt if BF was bearing down on me in the dark.

I'd say it's much more likely that your young friend missed the target entirely. If he didn't have someone nearby to spotlight the target, and thus give some ambient light on his gun sights, I think it's more likely he missed. Not being able to see your own gun sights is the hardest part of shooting at night. Pointing and shooting just doesn't get it.

 Ironically, the pistol is the weapon he probably missed more with than his rifle. I say ironically because the .357 would have been a far more potent round to have hit BF with than a .22. But the .357 with it's shorter barrel, and heavier recoil is also LESS likely to have hit the target. Especially in the dark. Barring some wild luck, I'd say it was a better chance that more .22 rounds hit the target...if the young man knows how to point a rifle...than even one of the .357s hitting.

I also think BF would shrug off a hit from a .22 and make no sound, unless the shot had been to the eyes, or gonads. If he exists, BF is a big animal. You wouldn't shoot a rhino in the butt with a .22 and expect to kill him. I'd say about the same thing applies to BF.

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2004, 10:24:43 PM »
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 These are real hillbilly`s. They can make or  build a car from scratch, from empty beer can`s lying around. They poach a deer now and then, only if they are hungry.  All of them have the long hair and long beards. All drive old beat up pickups and carry rifles all the time. When they come to visit, they scare my wife, because of their rough look`s.

Be sure your wife never comes around here, and if she does make sure she stays inside the city limits. :lol:  :)  :-D  And don't be surprised to see a few of us there. :grin:

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Us men folk will sit outside on the bare ground in a circle and pass the moonshine.

Uhh Huhh and what else are you and them old hillbillies passin' round???  :lol:  :)  :-D

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By the way, they eat the coons, and tan the hides.

I thought everyone that Coon Hunts did that :? at least eats them anyway.

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they saw these red eyes, about 8 feet off the ground. He opens up on the creature with his 22 and fires 17 bullets at the dark 8 ft creature with red glowing eyes.

This is the part of the story that makes me believe them...I know what "red eyes" they seen...and it gives me the shivers to recall it in my mind what they look like....that big creature everyone calls "Bigfoot" has Red Eyes in the light at night and this I am sure of.

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My question to them was did you think any of the bullets, made contact? Don said he dont think he hit anything cause he was scared.

If a hillbilly will admit fear, then they dang well seen something for sure. And remember, half my family are "hillbillies" so I know.

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Pointing and shooting just doesn't get it.

It depends on how you shoot to begin with, if the boy knows how to shoot instinctive then he very well may have connected...I can shoot a rabbit or tree rat in the day or a coon out of a tree or a frog across a  small pond in the night without sights using my Ruger M.K II Pistol but I practice without using my sights. I bow hunt with a recurve bow and no sights, and have no problems...just depends on the person how they were taught and how much they practice.

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the .357 with it's shorter barrel, and heavier recoil is also LESS likely to have hit the target.

I agree for the "average" person, but this also just depends on the person how they were taught and how much they practice.
From experience, I know for a fact that some young country folks can do things some older folks only wish they could do, especially when it comes to a hunting implement.

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2004, 01:57:00 AM »
Your right 7mag woodsman
My money is on the hillbilly 12 year old connecting with more than most of his shots.  Most of us practice because we like to see nice little holes in paper but when it means hitting your target or going hungry you are going to darn well hit your target.   Also by the time he was twelve he has probably spent more time with his rifle in his hand than most of us have by the time we are 50.  
Just my 2 cents
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2004, 02:19:53 PM »
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My money is on the hillbilly 12 year old connecting with more than most of his shots.  


It's probably wishful thinking on my part but I sort of hope he DIDN'T score all that many shots on BF. For one simple reason. Anything that can take multiple hits from a .357, and make no sound, is not an animal I want to have sharing the woods with me. Makes me nervous. :grin:

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2004, 11:42:36 AM »
Hey Bullet Maker....all those years and all those bigfoot sighting by yourself and no evidence.  Any wonder why people like myself are so skeptical?

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2004, 02:09:19 PM »
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Hey Bullet Maker....all those years and all those bigfoot sighting by yourself and no evidence.  Any wonder why people like myself are so skeptical?


Hey Grubbs
   I don`t really care what you think. And yes I have a lot of reports, but unlike the statement you made ( no evidence). I do have two pictures taken with a game camera, a foot cast, and several eye witness, reports, including my own. I`m not twisting your arm to believe.  Some people going to vote for Kerry, but I can`t keep them from it. What I`m trying to say is, everybody is different, and thats what makes to world go around.
   Now I see you are pretty new to the site, so welcome. I assume you are from Kansas or the Panhandle of Okla, because of one of your post on the bolt action board.

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2004, 08:09:44 PM »
Bill, I'm curious about your impression of Bigfoot. This may seem a morbid sort of question but I think it's vaguely on topic....what with the shooting questions. You may have answered this on some other posts, but I'd like to ask anyway.

Do you think Bigfoot is more Manlike than Animal, or more of a primate type creature? Or phrased another way, in your opinion, if one of these Bigfoot were shot would it be more like a Man...however primitive.... being killed, or more like an animal?

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2004, 02:04:44 AM »
I always thought of primates as animals too, but I will give you my opinion on your question...

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Do you think Bigfoot is more Manlike than Animal, or more of a primate type creature?

I think the Sasquatch is more like a primate than a man, but more like an "animal" than either.

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if one of these Bigfoot were shot would it be more like a Man...however primitive.... being killed, or more like an animal?

I don't know what you are asking here...it can be interpreted different ways....I know you listed this as a rephrase to the above question I answered, but they are actually to totally different questions altogether.

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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2004, 05:24:04 AM »
Sciences classifies everything into one of three categories. Vegetable, animal or mineral.

Therefore all critters which are mobile on their own and are alive are animals. This includes humans. Whether one likes to be called an animal or not that is still the general category to which we belong.

We're also primates by definition same as the apes and many other critters. This means a critter with a backbone and capable of standing upright I believe. There are other characteristics that define a primate of course.

So the question:
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Do you think Bigfoot is more Manlike than Animal, or more of a primate type creature?
is really sort of a non question.

If bigfoot exists which many here feel very confident of having seen him he is of a certainty a primate and an animal both. Now how human like he might be I guess would only be answered if one is ever captured and studied.

Let's think about a possible reality I've been tossing around in my head for some time regarding the bigfoot. What if at some ancient time in the history of man kind our evolution branched. What if we had two groups of humans in the very earliest of times who decided to take two different paths.

One took the path we now think of as human. They chose to wear clothes to stay warm and thus needed less body hair for that purpose. They chose to live inside structures which came to be called houses. They chose an organized society which led to someone else for the most part providing many of the essentials such as food, clothing and housing and each did what they do best to earn a commodity called money with which to pay for these items.

The other took a different path in life. They loved the outdoors. They didn't like being cooped up inside. They liked gathering their own food. They never took much to wearing clothes and so like other wild living critters needed and grew body hair for warmth. What if the humans of this path were just as intelligent as their more domesticated kin, maybe even more so. Hey they chose the outdoors full time and no jobs. Sounds smart to me.  :)

Wouldn't such a man over time evolve and adapt to survive in that given environment just as we have over time evolved and adapted to the way we now live? Because of the very nature of such an existence it is likely numbers would remain small. To increase in numbers you must do as we've done and develop cities and transportation to support the growing numbers.

What if bigfoot is really nothing but an extended family of humans who at some point in history decided not to join the rest of humans and instead stayed out in the wild and just adapted to that life style. Just as the rest of humanity has developed many different languages to communicate it is likely they too would have developed their own. Just as to me Chinese, Japanese and some other languages sound much like gibberish as I do not understand them so might the language of bigfoot sound like gibberish to us but a language to them.

Dunno. Just a wild what if scenario I've wondered about. It would help to understand much of what we know or think we know about them would it not?


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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2004, 06:27:04 AM »
Good theory for someone that does not "really" believe in the Sasquatch. :agree:  :grin:  You truly have an open mind on the subject and treat it with genuine respect. :grin:

I always thought our ancestors tried eating them and liked the meat so well that they hunted them almost to extinction thus causing their intense elusiveness....??? :lol:
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2004, 06:41:52 AM »
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Good theory for someone that does not "really" believe in the Sasquatch.   You truly have an open mind on the subject and treat it with genuine respect.


I try to keep an open mind on subjects to which I have no experience but which it appears others do. I'm willing to be convinced they exist. I just need a bit of personal experience like what some of you here say you've had to move me to the believer category from the wondering category. Just because I don't "believe" in things like this doesn't automatically mean I "disbelieve" them.

I have no doubt there are many things going on and many things which exist which we don't yet know about and have no hard proof of.


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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2004, 07:21:00 AM »
You'd think that with all the hunters in the Pacific NW, someone would have shot a bigfoot by now, but that hasn't happened and it never will cuz they don't exist. Between all my relatives and friends that have been hunting the supposed home stomping grounds of bigfoot, none of us including me in my 50 years of hunting here, nor my dad in his 70 yrs, nor any of my uncles and cousins here have even seen a track or spore that would even remotely be construed as being from a bigfoot, or even talked with someone who even thought they saw one or some sign of the critter. We've(entire family and friends) hunted, camped and fished in/on and around Mount St Helens for our entire lives and never once seen or heard first hand or talked with anyone firsthand that has witnessed anything that could be attributed to a bigfoot. We've seen or killed every critter that lives here including the more elusive critters such as cougars and bears so I'd think that if bigfoot really did exist, we'd have at least seen sign of the critter...... hasn't happened.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2004, 09:23:46 AM »
thats not necessarily true. the numbers of sightings are very small, maybe a few thousand out of the 800 million people who hae lived and died in the last couple hundred years since those sightings began. so thats like a one in 16,000 chance of seeing one. and thats if youre looking for em.

also, would YOU shoot a bigfoot if you saw one? the whole "no one shot one yet so they dont exist" is a cop out because you would never know unless you pulled that trigger if it was a bigfoot or someone faking it. we have been trained all our lives NOT to shoot at human-shaped things and now you expect someone to be able to shoot something that MIGHT be a human in the back, while its walking/running away, during a moment of intense stress/fear on the part of the hunter?

not to mention that even if youre CONVINCED it is a bigfoot and not a human AND you can overcome your traning and shoot, youd better be damn sure its dead so it doesnt attack you. and THEN youd better be damn sure there arent 3 more somewhere near that will tear you to pieces.

and THEN you have to be sure you can carry it out...an 8 foot tall bigfoot has to weigh somewhere between 500-800 pounds. and then there are the matters of whether you can store/keep it cold long enough to prove it exists, and be sure you wont be charged with a crime for shooting/possessing it.

i would say all that is even a moot point, because if any of you have ever gotten "buck fever" you know sometimes your body doesnt react how you want it to, and i imagine Bigfoot Fever is much worse. :)
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2004, 11:31:24 AM »
where is Buckskinner when we need him?Anybody hear from Bucky in the last 4 months?He is like Otto trying to get a wife.Only Bucky has a Red Hair discovery.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2004, 06:08:48 PM »
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Good theory for someone that does not "really" believe in the Sasquatch. :agree:  :grin:  You truly have an open mind on the subject and treat it with genuine respect. :grin:


Yeah, I gotta commend you on your attitude about this subject also, Graybeard. There are plenty of forums existent that would boot you if you expressed something the Moderator didn't believe in, or actively support. Your defense of the people who post their free experiences here was refreshingly "American". Something I'm not use to seeing much anymore.

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I always thought our ancestors tried eating them and liked the meat so well that they hunted them almost to extinction thus causing their intense elusiveness....??? :lol:
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Gigantopithicus (I'm sure I just totally mispelled that word) is a fossily recognized creature. We've found the bones of this creature. To my unscientific eye, there isn't a hair's difference between what experts believe Giganto looked like, and what Sasquatch seers have reported the creature looking like. I don't see why isolated pockets couldn't still exist today...if that line of primate managed to survive at all.

As to them being hunted to extinction, that was sort of the question that I I had and failed to articulate in my earlier post. I think that it's possible early Homo sapien saw Giganto as being "too close" to Human, with some obvious differences...one of which being the size...that might have led to rivalries.  Confrontations based on food availability, and living space might have occurred. That was what I was driving at when I asked if those who've seen Bigfoot thought of it subjectively afterwards as being "almost a Man"...or conversely, "clearly not close to Man". Facial expressions, gestures, body posture, signs of intelligence, signs of emotions, tool use, or use of language being some examples of characteristics that might make BF seem Man-like.

I agree that a clear understand of the biology of bigfoot will only come if a specimen is dropped on an autopsy table. I do think that some evidence exists that the creature dropped on the table might be, for all intents and purposes, a Man. What happens if the creature dropped on the table turns out to be exactly human with only body hair and hefty size? Murder charges?

There is a tale I read a year or two ago that tells about a Russian girl who was a "wild woman" that got adopted by the village and eventually had children by a man. Her children were alledgedly extra hairy and their decendents still live in that village even to today. If this Almas was capable of having children by a Homo sapien, then this "creature" may not be much different than African pigmys, or natives on Borneo who've never seen civilization. Ignorant, wild, and scarifyingly BIG...but Homo sapien enough to meet the definition of a severly mentally retard individual...for example.

Or do most people who've seen it think of it as being more a big dumb ape?

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2004, 06:40:00 PM »
Hi guy`s :D
   Here`s my two cents worth  :money: I think they are more ape than anything. It wasn`t until about 1921? that they discovered the mountain gorilla. At first, the scientific community, thought it was all tales of fables or myth`sa made up by the natives. Then finally one was harvested, and now we know they exist. Even the president Teddy Roosevelt, told of an encouter that one of his most trusted friends had with a Bigfoot in one of his autobiography books.
    All of the American Indian tribes have stories of the (hairy people, that are so elusive, and shy, that they avoid even the American Indians.
But I think that they are mostly peaceful, anyhow the ones that I`ve been trying to research. All they have done to us, is scare the  :bye: out of us, by their hollers, and screams. They did turn over, a tower stand of mine that weighted about 1200 lbs, and was 12ft tall.
   Most of you have read of my encounters that I`ve had, including the first one of the little bigfoot sitting outside my travel trailer, in the pouring rain and just sitting there starring at me when I opened the door one morning. I could have shot him, but I had the impression that it was a young bigfoot kid if you will. No matter how bad I would like to see it proved that they do exist, I couldn`t pull the trigger on a young bigfoot, it looked to much like wild human being.
                     
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2004, 07:07:02 PM »
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BIG...but Homo sapien enough to meet the definition of a severly mentally retard individual...for example.

Or do most people who've seen it think of it as being more a big dumb ape?


Now mind you I've not seen or heard one or any sign of one so am still in the unconvinced category until I do have such a personal experience as these guys are reporting.

BUT from what I've read and heard I don't really get the impression they would by any stretch of the imagination be called "mentally retarded" or dumb. That they have avoided capture or being killed so long would tend to indicate a very high level of intelligence.

No I think that if they exist they are quite intelligent. Thus my proposed theory of them above. It doesn't stretch my imagination too much to think it possible some branch of humanity turned its back on civilized society many thousands of years ago and chose to remain more akin to the cave men of old than the house and city dwellers of today. Don't see any reason why they couldn't have a great deal of native intelligence and woods craft so superior to those of us "citified" humans that we can barely even know they are here and can't prove it to the rest who've not witnessed it. I can wrap my mind around such a possibility and thus am open to believing they definitely exist as many here do if only I one day have such an encounter.

Because of the very nature of them I don't think I'd ever even think of shooting one except in defense of life and from all reports it seems that's unlikely unless you first try to take theirs.


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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2004, 07:28:21 PM »
Hi Graybeard :D
   Yes I think they do have an intellgence, for example. I left a grass carp hanging from a bungy cord, down at the creek where we usually bigfoot hunt. Now, I hung the fish on a pencil size limb, and the next morning, the fish was gone, and the bungy cord, still hanging from the small limb. I hung the fish about 7ft off the ground, (to keep the smaller predators from getting the fish), and the way I had the fish on the bungy cord was, that the fish was hooked through the gills, with the metal wire. The bigfoot unhooked the fish, ( so he must have been smart, or he would have just pulled the fish down, bungy cord and all). But because he left the bungy cord intack, and on the small pencil size limb, it makes me believe that he has smarts, pulse maybe even polite?,, dunno,, he left the bungy cord there. He also left his 17 inch foot track that I cast, and have now in my studies.
   Its going to be interesting this year.

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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2004, 04:41:18 PM »
Now that you know he likes fish you could start hangen carp out on a bi weekly bases.set up 2 trail cams at different angles.Perhaps you might get a good pic out of one of em.Be worth a try.

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2004, 03:44:12 AM »
Hay bullet maker - you said:  Most of you have read of my encounters that I`ve had, including the first one of the little bigfoot sitting outside my travel trailer, in the pouring rain and just sitting there starring at me when I opened the door one morning. I could have shot him, but I had the impression that it was a young bigfoot kid if you will. No matter how bad I would like to see it proved that they do exist, I couldn`t pull the trigger on a young bigfoot, it looked to much like wild human being.

I'm sorry but I must have missed the one about the little Bigfoot.  Gee, it soudned as though he was a lost little boy, sitting in the pouring rain.  Did it appear that he was waiting for you, or just curious?  How did he react to seeing you come out of the trailer?  

If you could either direct me to the post (story) or re-post it I would really appreciate it.  Thanks.  Mikey.

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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2004, 05:18:10 AM »
O K Guys, This is just a question and Im going to try to behave. In this age of thermal imaging spy planes and satellite photography that can read the tag number on a car, has anyone ever captured a decent image of a big foot with this stuff? Seems to me that would be a great source of evidence. Even if they are not actually looking for them mabe some have been seen by accident.
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2004, 06:18:57 AM »
bullet maker....I will definitely not vote for Hitler (Kerry), and I live in W. Texas.  Why don't you post these pics for our enjoyment.  I don't consider "eye witness" accounts as evidence, or foot casts as all of them I have ever heard of have been fakes.  I would love to see the pictures though.  Are they blurry or fuzzy like all the others?

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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2004, 01:19:54 PM »
If bigfoot is smarter than a mountainlion which is very elusive most of us will never see one and thats probably why most don't see them.  Their not stupid I think these are very smart primates and they sense to stay away from us until we invade their area is when they make contact.  I think they watch us from a distance all the time and we don't have a clue that they are there.  :eek:                                          BigBill

Didn't in one of the bigfoot stories about a lost kid the chopper pilot picked up a very large uprite walking primate on his screen and he said to his co-pilot what the hell is that??  I think our goverment knows that they exsist its just another coverup so they will be left alone.   The russians are doing more into researching them to make contact in a friendly way.   We have a habit of screwing up everything we touch and come in contact with don't we?  If it likes my cooking I'll have another friend for supper. :D

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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2004, 04:43:28 PM »
Twodollar trail cams can take very clear pics at night,unless the deer has its nose right in the camera.A feller around here found a deer carcass covered in leaves an part of the ham eaten.He thought maybe a cougar.He set a trail cam up.a week later he had perfectly clear pics of a very big bobcat.
 If this hairy felleow would walk infront of one we would have a clear pic of it.this trail cams are amazing.Ive seen pics of bucks in a area that no one even new existed.Veryclear pics.
 Cant see why no one has used these trail cams to there advantage.Study the lay of the land,like any creature this thing would take the easy route in some places at night when no one else was around.There are just some places that are natural funnels that just about every creature on foot goes threw when in that area.This is the place for the trail cam.

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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2004, 07:07:38 PM »
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Now that you know he likes fish you could start hangen carp out on a bi weekly bases.set up 2 trail cams at different angles.Perhaps you might get a good pic out of one of em.Be worth a try.


Hi propredator :D

  You hit on a good experiment, we tried that at other sites, playing camera`s off each other, and got some great pictures of deer, havent tried it over the fish yet, will try and let you all know.

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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2004, 07:18:05 PM »
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bullet maker....I will definitely not vote for Hitler (Kerry), and I live in W. Texas.  Why don't you post these pics for our enjoyment.  I don't consider "eye witness" accounts as evidence, or foot casts as all of them I have ever heard of have been fakes.  I would love to see the pictures though.  Are they blurry or fuzzy like all the others?


Hey Grubbs :roll:
   There is no need then to post my pictures if you think they are fake, (foot cast that is) The two of the bigfoot are clear, except one is of his head only, :roll:  dont know why? and the other was taken over a game feeder, and he walked by the camera, as in going away past the camera, and all I got was his right leg. Furry leg, and foot. we have had five camera, different areas, of the area, and only two of bigfoot, but thousand of deer, turkey, everything in between.
    So its like trying to get a picture of a needle in a haystack. Weve been doing this for about the last 3 years. and we leave the camera out 24/7/365 days a year. One of these days we will get a full body of Bigfoot, on picture. we hope.  :D

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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2004, 07:33:03 PM »
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O K Guys, This is just a question and Im going to try to behave. In this age of thermal imaging spy planes and satellite photography that can read the tag number on a car, has anyone ever captured a decent image of a big foot with this stuff? Seems to me that would be a great source of evidence. Even if they are not actually looking for them mabe some have been seen by accident.


  Hey twodollarpistol
  this thermal imaging, is not perfect. For example, I dont know if the news hit your area, but about 6 months or 1 year ago, there was a guy that killed his father-in-law, beat the hell out his mother-in-law, and tried to kill his wife. Will to make a long story short, he was pinned down in an area about 1/8 mile area, it was one of Oklahomas biggest man hunts, they had a dozen helecopters, all with that thermal imaging, they had the nation guard, and a host of different law people all walking abreast, and never found him. They looked for about 2 or 3 weeks. Everybody was scared, everybody was seeing him everywhere at once. He was an indian and knew the land well.
    Will he gave his self up. cause he was getting tired of hiding and he was getting hungry. They ask him were he had been at, He said he was there the whole time, and that he watched the people come within 10 ft of him. He said he would hide in the holes in the ground and at night, he would cover up with leaves and branches, Guess what, all of that technology, didnt catch him, it was the hunger that got him caught.
    So know you can see how hard it is to find Bigfoot.

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