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Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« on: September 22, 2004, 03:20:57 AM »
http://www.rhinobullets.co.za/tests.htm

Dunno anything more about them.
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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2008, 01:08:50 AM »
I imagine that will be suitable for hunting the larger animals, no?

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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 05:15:38 AM »
Excessive-weight-for-caliber bullets have often been touted as having some kind of magical killing properties.  In the 1940s and 1950s this may have held true to some extent, since bullet technology at the time was not very advanced compared to what we have today.  About the only way to improve penetration back then was to increase bullet weight.  This was the heyday of Keith and his ".33-caliber and 250-grain minimum" mantra.

Today's high tech bullets can duplicate or exceed the penetration of yesterday's heavy bullets, and do it at higher velocities for flatter trajectories and lower recoil.   There are still those who get light headed at the thought of long heavy bullets, but the reality is that conventional weight bullets of today will do the job as well.  I am not against anyone who wishes to use "too-heavy" bullets for their hunting, just as long as they don't tell me that conventional weight bullets are somehow inadequate.    ;)


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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 05:36:01 PM »
Excessive-weight-for-caliber bullets have often been touted as having some kind of magical killing properties.  In the 1940s and 1950s this may have held true to some extent, since bullet technology at the time was not very advanced compared to what we have today.  About the only way to improve penetration back then was to increase bullet weight.  This was the heyday of Keith and his ".33-caliber and 250-grain minimum" mantra.

Today's high tech bullets can duplicate or exceed the penetration of yesterday's heavy bullets, and do it at higher velocities for flatter trajectories and lower recoil.   There are still those who get light headed at the thought of long heavy bullets, but the reality is that conventional weight bullets of today will do the job as well.  I am not against anyone who wishes to use "too-heavy" bullets for their hunting, just as long as they don't tell me that conventional weight bullets are somehow inadequate.    ;)


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Oh? Is that why so many hunters are using 300 grain hardcast .44 bulllets in their handguns and 265 grained hardcast bullets in their .41 caliber handguns? Causse we can get the same results from 240 grains in .44s and 210 grained bullets in our .41 caliber handguns? News to me.
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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 01:33:55 AM »
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Oh? Is that why so many hunters are using 300 grain hardcast .44 bulllets in their handguns and 265 grained hardcast bullets in their .41 caliber handguns? Causse we can get the same results from 240 grains in .44s and 210 grained bullets in our .41 caliber handguns? News to me.

Apples and oranges.  You can buy 300-grain jacketed bullets from most bullet makers (Hornady, Speer, Nosler, Sierra), they are hardly considered "excessive" in weight for .44 and .45 caliber cartridges today. 

But when I read of shooters wanting to shoot 400-grain bullets in .45LCs - which has come up in the forums in the last month or so - that is "excessive".  250-grain bullets for the .30-06, 120-grain bullets for 6mms...more examples. 

Don't worry, you don't have to feel 'out of control' because you use 300-grain bullets.  ;)


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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 02:41:56 AM »
One man's tea, is anothers poison.
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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008, 05:50:22 AM »
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One man's tea, is anothers poison.

Seems I already had that one covered...

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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 10:33:55 AM »
How fast can the 375 H&H push a 380gr bullet?   I mean it would have to go at least 2400 or 2500 FPS to be any good.

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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 03:58:02 PM »
You can't get these bullets in the United States.
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Re: Found on the web: 380 grain 375H&H bullets
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 04:15:19 PM »
Maybe not the 380 gr bullets, but you can get Woodleigh 350 gr bullets, both in solids and soft points for the .375 H&H bore.  Several professional hunters have written that the .375 H&H with 300 gr bullets on DG traveling at 2550 fps are a bit fast and have found they have better results dropping velocity to 2400 fps.  Kevin Robertson, author of the Perfect Shot and Taylor's African Rifles and Cartridges.  And the bullets being used in these results mirror current tech bullets.  Woodleigh bullet have a steel jacket much like Rigby's originals and Doc Robertson has used and expresses his opinion on X bullets, so both opinions regarding the higher velocity may have some merit.  By using Woodleigh's 350 gr bullets in the .375 H&H, the velocity would drop to the 2400 fps, so preferred by these pros on DG.  I'm just quoting their opinion and not attempting to arouse a controversy.
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