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Offline TOMMYY01

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« on: September 25, 2004, 11:20:45 AM »
I have diabetes. I'm just taking the pill for now. I'm keeping it in check. curiuos thing though, When I perspire does it affect, does it smell like I've been drinking? Before I go to the woods, the first thing I do is shave, then take a shower with no scent soap. then I dry off with towels that I wash in noscent wash. Then put on just something to get to the woods. My hunting clothes don't get puton till I'm at where I'm going to hunt. I sraydown with noscent and some cover scent. Then I dr. the area with doe urine and the like. I'm just curious If I need to do something since else so that I don't make my presense in the woods known. Bythe the way, I don't drink alcohol. Any suggestions?
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2004, 11:49:23 AM »
Just stay downwind of your quarry and what you smell like won't matter. Sometimes it's hard to do but....it works. I'd sure like to have a small percentage of the amount of money that hunters spend on scent control! :wink:
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2004, 12:03:03 PM »
I think Quick is right on target,The first 5 deer I shot with my bow,I had a cigerette in my mouth when I shot. I've never used any scent control of any kind and have stalked close enough to mark the deer with a broadhead through there ear. Some people swear by the stuff though,so I guess there's something to it.  
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2004, 01:34:58 PM »
Hunters spend big bucks for scent control products. This makes some manufacturers very happy. Do they work? I'm sure most of them will do some of what they claim.  For years I used some stuff put out by Russell Hull that I swore by. Now I can't even remember the name of that stuff. It smelled like vanilla extract :grin: . I have seen deer come downwind of me and actually turn and walk up to investigate that smell.  I have not used any scent for several years now.
 I think that as long as you can keep the wind in your face or quartering then all is ok. This can be a problem what with thermals and swirling winds, but it is achievable. I stillhunt a great deal and stalking a deer is a big rush. I have found that if the wind changes I just change directions also.   Whether hunting with my longbow, compound, or 20ga the wind is the key factor in success.

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2004, 04:08:19 PM »
I once had an old part indian deer hunting buddy who took chlorophyll pills from July till December.He did not smoke so he wasn't trying to eliminate that odor.He said any human has a smell and nothing you can do to completely eliminate it but you can cut down on it.He stored his hunting clothes in a big plactic bag with often changed boughs of evergreen in there.Also when he got up in his tree stand he squirted small amounts of doe urine on the ground on all four sides.
One other thing he did which I still do today is to put a couple of drops of turpentine on the bottom of his boots before going in the woods.He said it was a natural smell and covered the scent on his boots.
This man was one of the finest deer hunters I ever saw and there had to be some validity to what he did because he always got his limit of deer.
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2004, 01:45:42 PM »
Scent killer is like fishing lures for the fisherman.  They are designed to catch the fisherman.  I have never used it.  Once I had a big doe walk to within 4 feet, I repeat 4 feet of me, looking me over.  I was setting perfectly still on the ground with my back against three small oaks.  I did not even bat an eye.  Because the wind was blowing from her to me.  She tried and tried to get a sniff of me but could not.  I did not have a doe tag so had to let her go.  I actually thought of touching or that is trying to touch her on the nose with my rifle.  She finally walked off, never did get a sniff of me.  Just hunt into the wind and all will be fine.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2004, 03:31:23 PM »
Hunt the wind....Yes, but what happens when the deer are down wind of you? If you think they won't smell you......I have some ocean front property for sale.....

Anyway, the best scent a hunter can use is no scent. Smell like.....nothing, have no smell. Deer live in their environment every minute of every day and night. And while younger deer may be curious and inspired to check out the unusual, the more mature animals (the ones likely to have the big rack you want) are not going to investigate, they are going to avoid the odor/area.

The clothing that absorbs odors will absord the alcohol smell of your persiration as well. the other way to beat perspiration is don't. Move slowly enough that you are not generating a quantity of sweat. It will also improve your chances of seeing game as you will be moving at a pace that allows you to observe your surroundings. Don't over dress. If you are stand hunting, carry your extra clothing with you and put it on after you ahve reached your stand and have cooled off. Otherwise, you are a walking bag of insulation which compounds the problem of odor control.

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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2004, 03:38:35 PM »
Had trouble once with Deer in the Cattle herd,tried all kinds of things,finaly got a Cow hide and got in the front and put the Segundo in the rear and we approached them successfully----until the Bull start towards us,I dropped my head and started to eat grass and told the Segundo to brace himself.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2004, 06:39:44 PM »
JPH45,  Come on now, you don't seriously think there is something you can spray on you or take or bath in that will make you smell like something in the woods do you.  If you do, I have some waterfront property for you.  Animals have such a refined sense of smell anything out of the ordinary is an alert to them, especially the mature ones.  All you folks that believe in that scent eraser stuff just tell me what company produces it and I will buy stock in them.  It is a bunch of crap.  Same way with all this camo crap.  I have been in blaze orange and had deer stop and study me and then walk away with no alarm.  All you have to do is stay still, don't move, that is what they see, movement.  Always hunt upwind.  If you can't then they are going to smell you.  It's really not all that complicated.  That and the noise you make.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2004, 05:38:03 AM »
try this, deer are not the smartest critter out there, if you have corn on the property you hunt get some corn or if you have oaks get some acorns take the acorns bust them up with a hammer put them in a glass jar or pot or whatever just make yourself a double boiler put just enough water in it to make i float and boil it down. same thing with the corn. them take your boiled down corn or oaks put the liquid in a spray botel and now you have a free cover sent that the deer don't know.

 a lot of hunters use cover sents , like fox or coon pee,  well have you ever seen a fox that is 6 ft tall  and peed himself every night for the last year? well neither have the deer and when every time they smell that they get shot at their going to put two and two together.

if your only after bucks  when the just before the rut starts going get some doe in heat pee and spray it on your boots and pants , i've had bucks big and small come straight to me trailing me .  now a lot of hunters well tell you not to spray it on yourself  because the bucks might come after you. WELL HECK that just what i want them to do if a big buck comes up and want to "mount" me i'm sure he'll give me a good shot somewhere along the line.

i use some kind of spray every time i go out  and i hunt the wind on our farm of about 300acr i have 10 different stands and blinds and what i try to do is hunt a stand or blind that i have the wind in my face and a field to my back (some where about 30-50 yards away) because when deer hear you calling and rattling they 99% of the time try to get down wind of you and smell you BUT they are going to try to stay in the woods so if the tree line is only 30 yards away they are going to have to get in range of you before they smell you and if you cover sent is working they wont do that either.

 if you do stand hunt try what JPH45 said and pack you clothing in with you  and go slow going to the stand this not only makes you not sweat as much but it will not scare as much deer out of the woods.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2004, 11:26:23 AM »
I've got the surefire solution to the odor problem. Instead of carrying you hunting clothes with you to the stand, hunt naked and carry a bucket of water with you.After you reach your stand pour the water over you and wait for the deer to rush in,for it will be something that they have never seen before.After the word gets around about the crazy human deer will come for miles around to see this.After all,our ancestors from way back hunted naked,and with just a big stick. You will not wear out any clothes or boots,and the skin will grow back. So get tough boys and get out there and hunt like a man.  Digger ( I have'nt figured out how to make the smilleys yet)
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2004, 11:51:11 AM »
Quote from: TOMMYY01
I have diabetes.   Any suggestions?
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Tommy01'

I hope you haven't given up on this post by now....

First re: deer hunting:  Hunting the wind is critical in almost every instance as far as I'm concerned.    Really, if you don't hunt the wind you are just gambling.    BUT, the wind can be quartering into you and you can still get good results, as you may already know.    Of course we are talking about still and stand- hunting methods.     If driving deer, have the drivers quietly move downwind to push the deer by scent rather than noise.....and see what happens.    No, not originally my idea....but that's what I've read and believe it would work very well.    I no longer hunt with a group so I'm not involved in driving deer any longer.  

Second re: deer hunting:  I wear green clothing on the outside, or green camo' on the outside, including a bow-hunters camo face-net like Hunter's Specialties' manufactures.    I've been VERY CLOSE to deer that way!    I have actually moved in front of them several feet at a time -- if the deer were not too close and I stayed low to the ground-- and they didn't run off right away.    They don't find an all-green human being sitting down on a lawn chair (painted green) too much of a problem!    Believe me, I don't smell pretty, I do put on bug-repellant spray, and I do turn my head to check the surroundings.....all the while sitting on the ground!   Not In A Tree.      

I see plenty of deer during my ground-hog hunts even during bow season using these techniques.    

Re: diabetes.....

Please get prayed over for help with that condition; and please see a preventive medicine doctor to see what they can do to help you.

My wife was deaf for 18+ years (totally in one ear and could hear maybe 10% in the other -- so could use 1 hearing aid.)   She Was Prayed Over In JESUS NAME and IMMEDIATELY HEALED in 1972......     I hope it is God's will for you to be delivered and healed as well.

Take care,

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