Author Topic: I can't believe that nobody here uses a Rokon! (Read 9183 times)

JJHACK · « **on:** September 30, 2004, 03:12:53 AM »

With all the hunters and visitors to this site nobody has posted anything on the most fantastic and capable off road vehicle ever made. I have owned well over a doze varios motorcycles, 3 wheel ATVs and 4 Wheel(4X4) ATVs and now I have two Rokons. Nothing compares to the Rokon for off road travel, and very few ATVs appraoch the weight capacity. For a near perfect hunting machine I have never used anything better. I only wish I would have saved my money buy getting one of these first rather then last!

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2004, 05:35:46 AM »

Jim that likely would be because the Rokon is a two wheel drive two wheel vehicle if memory serves me correctly. For the most part the discussion here is about the four and six wheel utility type vehicles. Occasionally it will shift to others but seems hardly anyone uses a two wheel anything for hunting. I used to use a two wheel dirt bike for mountain riding and did look at the Rokon back in those days but never did anything more than look.

markc · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2004, 08:19:15 AM »

JJ, your post sounds like a Rokon salesmans pitch. In fact I think their web site used to use much the same words as your post.

The Last time I looked at a Rokon, I saw what GB saw, a 2wheeler, 2WD. Now, refresh my memory on the front and rear rack capacity of the Rokon? How deep of water will it travel in? Do you have to shift gears? Put your feet down when you stop on an off camber, steep climb, trail full of ruts or even level ground? How about balancing that 150# or heavier dead animal you are packing back in from the field through deep snow or mud?

"Nothing compares to the Rokon for offroad travel"? What do you mean? What is the suspension travel of a Rokon? A Rokon may be a neat trendy 2 wheeler, but in all reality, when traveling into far away places with loads of gear, how can a single seater 2WD 2 wheeler hold a tick on a hogs butt compared to say for instance, Yamaha Grizzley 660? Artic Cat 500 4X4? Yamaha Rhino 660 4X4, Polaris Ranger 6X6? Kawasaki Mule 3010 4X4? Somehow I can't see a Rokon carrying over 400# or the 800+ of the mule, 1200# of the Ranger.

Neat, trendy, But where are all of the Rokon dealerships? Can't recall a single one, ever, that I have seen. Where do replacement parts come from? Warranty work?

Thats a few reasons why they aren't talked about here and as GB said, mostly this forum talks 4 wheeled vehicles, mostly of the utility variety.
markc

Graybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2004, 08:41:50 AM »

Can't say I've ever visited their website for sure but they used to advertise heavily in magazines. As I recall they had tremendous ground clearance and used what looked like tractor tires on both wheels and both were driving wheels. Back in my two wheeler days I always thought they'd be the ultimate go anywhere bike. BUT they weren't street legal and back then I had no way to get them to the woods other than to ride them from home to there. That is the biggest reason I never bought one.

Guess that like Mark, I'd never have concerned one for actually hunting on it and carrying game out or gear in. How well does that work? Sounds like you think it works pretty well Jim.

JJHACK · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2004, 09:37:42 AM »

Yeah I guess the term ATV really does imply more then two tires by todays standards.

The Rokon is clearly not a motorcycle as even the company refers to it as a Mototractor. I have used a lot of machines over the years but I will say that something awfull dog-gone outstanding will have to come along before I let this one go. My rokon is just the best all around machine for difficult travel I have ever used. Combined with the options available it's a working/ hunting beast. Even the US Marines have 100 of them in Afganistan now. They were built to specific requirements for the military. Although from what I understand that means special order color, and handlebar gun racks. They also come equiped with the stealth exhaust system. I just recieved the stealth system for mine but have not put it on yet. That exhaust system is suppose to reduce the audible noise by about 60%. The Kohler powered Rokon was already the questest ATV made without that exhaust system. I'll let you know what I think whenI get it put on.

Here are some photo's of the military Rokons just arriving in Afganistan:

Here is a photo of mine during a recent bear hunt. The dead bear we shot is in the valley just below this ridge. We loaded the bear hide and meat along with two of us and drove back to the truck. There had to be 700 pounds on the machine!

tripper · « **Reply #5 on:** October 01, 2004, 05:03:46 PM »

Years ago a fellow pulled a deer out for me with one of them two wheel drive rigs and after watching him fight his way through a tagelder swamp with it I decided I would personal rather drag the deer then to fight trying to keep the thing balanced. I will say on higher ground it worked great. Now hauling in portable stands and such seems it would almost require a trailer.

JJHACK · « **Reply #6 on:** October 01, 2004, 05:51:13 PM »

Not sure what might have been the problem with the balance or the swamp conditions?

As far as the portable stands go I regularly carry two to two of them when setting them out in the spring. My carry rack is 14" wide and 24" long with a 1000 pound capacity. It took me three trips to get my steel tripod stand into a very remote area 16 miles from the end of the road according to the GPS I have on my Rokon. It's still in there and I have since built a plywood enclosure on it. with a roof and a swivel seat. The Rokon hauled in everything. and quite a lot of game has come out from that stand.

The short coming with the Rokon is that road hunting is tough with the attention needed to watch the road while driving. with a Four Wheeler you can drive more like a car and daydream a bit or let your eyes wander across the bush for game. That is about the only downside I have found. Oh well maybe one other problem. The Rokon tends to put into situations you should not be in. It's unbelievable power and ability to climb and get through really difficult areas makes you feel invincible on it. Well,.... as we all know nothing is invincible and you can really get in a bad situatuon with this thing going way into places you have no business being.

At least with the Rokon at only 185 pounds you can wrestle it out of most problems. With my 4X4 ATV no human would be able to extract it once really burried or otherwise stuck.

Old Syko · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2004, 07:03:22 AM »

Mark seems to have responded to this about the same as I would. My first concern would be the lack of dealers and the lack of parts. Since it is mechanical, it is going to break and you can't fix it if you can't get parts.

The most capable off road vehicle ever made! :roll: Please! I can load 2 deer and all my gear on my Kawasaki 4 wheeler and make a 3ft. deep water crossing and get all the way back to the house without getting wet. That is what we call capable around here. But to each their own. Enjoy your ride and I wish you well with it but I won't be trying to trade you.

JJHACK · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2004, 12:24:18 PM »

Three feet of water and you don't get wet? I have owned and used a lot of four wheelrs and not a single one would ford 36" of water much less without me getting wet!
If that is a fact the Rokon is beat hands down with that magic trick! The reason being it will begin to float at about 24" of water! At 30" it will certainly be floating. I suppose if you have a long enough snorkle you could cross any body of water with that 4 wheeler of yours! A rokon floats across as it cannot sink with the hollow drum wheels and the big floatation tires.

JJHACK · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2004, 04:22:26 PM »

Mark,
I'm not into this heavy debate stuff, and certainly not going to argue the point. I'll rather just point out a few things I have learned or experience with the two over the years based on the 4X4 ATV's I have owned and used and the rokons I have owned and used.

As far as Service goes they are powered by a stationary industrial 4 stroke engine. Anyplace that will or can fix a lawn mower can repair the engine on a rokon it's no more complicated then a lawn mower.

The transmission is a centrifical clutch exactly like a snow mobile and has really nothing that can go wrong. If Centrifical clutches were troublesome they would not likely be found on millions of snowmobiles. It powers into a torque converter again exactly like the snowmobiles use. This feeds a three speed gear box for your choice of torque range. In the lowest range the Rokon will pull a 3000 pound trailer. In the highest range top speed is 40MPH.

The Rokon has been made since the 1960's in almost exactly the same configuiration. There are 18 bearings on the Rokon and every one is the same. There is no battery and it's a pull start. Very little electrically to go wrong. Actually the inventer (nethercutt) developed this from the beginning to be as dependable and trouble free as possible. The original idea was spawned from research and exploring in the most remote areas of Africa where the Range rovers were constantly broken down or stuck. He designed this machine to handle 1000 pounds and to be able to go anyplace a person can walk.

The Rokon can hold 12 gallons of fuel which will allow it to run approx 60 hours. Fuel and water can be stored in the hollow aluminum wheels. It will float, it will climb a 60deg grade and decend a 60 deg grade easily. It will go through snow so deep the snow will push you off the seat. My 4X4 ATV's and everyone I have ever seen are not even as good as a 4X4 "city equiped" SUV in snow! I have never seen a 4X4 ATV even with chains and lockers travel up a snowy hill with 15" of wet snow. They are stopped in just a few feet of travel when the snow is wet the the roads go up a hill. They would never climb a 60 deg grade, and unless you are ready to bail off it you would not likely ever go down a 60deg grade on a 4X4 ATV. I would never have traversed the side hills on my 4X4 ATV which the Rokon does with out any effort. Because they have no shifting (auto trans) your feet can act as outriggers and help you to walk the machine up and over anything in your way. The dual disc brakes are up high on the output of the gear boxes, not down on the wheels in the muck and water.

When I connect the side car on my Rokon it's about the width of a 4X4 ATV but now has 1500 pounds of weight capacity! It can easily carry 2 People. The Mfg even says that it's OK to carry two people. Not many 4X4 ATV's come with manufacturer permission to carry two people. Add to that it's the quietest gas powered off road vehicle made.

I agree 100% that a 4X4 ATV is more comfortable at high speed and less difficult to drive. They seem absolutely perfect around the farm or on trails and gravel roads. But when the roads end and hills are steep and wooded and the Elk or bear is down miles from any trail or road that 4X4 ATV with 600cc is not going to help you fetch the game and gear.

Speaking of which I have burried my 4X4 ATV in mud and snow more then a few times. Several times I had to go back on foot to get a come-a-long and help to dig it out. I eventually put a winch on it and promplty burried it again with the winch under the snow up against a log making it unusable! Go figure I would find a way to do that!

The Rokon is only 185 pounds so it's not to awful difficult toe wrestle out of the tought spots. Finally why did the US marines choose Rokons over 4X4 ATV's in Afganistan? According to the guy who sent me the photo's the final decision was based on two people per rokon and only one per 4X4 ATV by manufactureer design, distance travelled on the fuel carried on board, approach angles, and space that is taken up in transport.

Why does the US Forest service fire fighting team have 25 in Washington state and no 4X4 ATVs? Because the 4X4's are not safe in steep hills and side hills. The Rokon can drive right to the fire with two people and gear. They also had them made with a 75 foot hose reel and PTO pump which can shoot water 75 feet and is fed from any stream or creek. They also make a 4500KW generator which runs from the PTO output.

Regarding approach angle, the Rokon will climb up the side of a tree until it falls backward. There is no approach angle limitations. Clearly the 4X4 ATV has the edge on comfort and speed, along with electric start and the more luxury overall.

The Rokon without question can travel to places nothing else but something with feet can match. I'm not claiming its the "best" ATV for hunting, just the best off road travel vehicle ever made, at least that I have seen

Graybeard · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2004, 05:30:06 PM »

Dang Jim that kinda makes me wish I had gone ahead and gotten one back in my two wheel dirt bike days and found a small light trailer to haul it. Some of the places I tried to go it sure would have come in handy. I know what ya mean about the 185 pounds and pulling them out of bad places. That's about what my Harley 125 weighted and I sure had to pull it out of a few mudholes and streams.

Daveinthebush · « **Reply #11 on:** October 02, 2004, 05:57:27 PM »

JJHACK:

Is it possible to pull any kind of light trailer with the vehicle? I have thought of one before and at 185 pounds it sure would be handy to have up here.

You could even load on into a bush plane and take off from the strip to get way back in.

JJHACK · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2004, 05:46:01 AM »

Bill, what is the best feature over all for off road is the low range. The rpms are about 6000 on the engine and the speed is hardly moving. The torque and climbing function is so slow and deliberate that anyone can ride the thing like an expert and climb over anything in the way. While sitting on the seat and using your feet for balance it can be crawled across any terrain. The Rokon Factory video shows a guy loading it into the back of a full size pickup without a ramp. He pulls the front tire to the tailgate and it rolls right up onto the bed, then he leans way forward and the back tire crawls up and he is in the truck without a ramp! Imagine what this can do in the bush compared to a 4X4 ATV!

I have a trailler for my 4 stroke now. I have loaded it with dirt, firewood, etc it will pull that load just about anyplace the road allows. I have two of these and I'm selling my 2 stroke Rokon with the side car. I just don't use two enough to justify them both. I have also begun to build a heavy duty single tire "bob" style trailler. The "bob" trailler was invented for mountain bikes. It can handle about 50 pounds. I am welding one up I hope to carry about 300 pounds.

Go to this site and see what they say. I'm not a salesmen or investor. I was just wandering the site when I came across the "ATV" section and peeked in to see who else was using a Rokon. I was stunned to see nobody was! I asked a question and here we are! The website has a lot of info on it. I can also say that there is no real sales hype there. It's all true that I have seen. I have really tested this bugger and it does what they claim in abig way.

I sold my Honda 4X4 about a month after I got my first Rokon. I knew I would not be using it again.

tripper · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2004, 03:28:54 PM »

JJHACK, I wasn't trying to cut ypour machine, as I said the only thing I seen like it was years ago and it worked very well except in that tagelder swamp and anything short of a wide track cat can have trouble there. I had actually looked at getting one at one time. In most cases they would proubly work very well where I live and hunt, I just can't trust my legs and back to help balce one if need be.

markc · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2004, 04:42:48 AM »

Apparently the US military likes 4 wheel atv's also, to the tune of over ten million bucks for Polaris. So, no they really didn't choose the Rokon over 4 wheel atv's.

Washington state has 25. Thats cool, but so many fire depts use Mule or similar side by side 4X4's because on them unlike a Rokon, you can actually evacuate injured people who can't sit upright and hold on to a 2 wheeler going down a 60% grade. they may not reach a spot a Rokon can, but 2 wheels limits what the vehicle can do, or be used for. Rokon should consider making a 4 wheel vehicle!

http://thewayout.polarisindustries.com/TheWayOut/News/PressReleaseDetail.aspx

JJ, no heavy debate for me either, unless someone makes a statement like. "most fantastic and capable off road vehicle ever made".

The Rokon is good for some purposes, but really, please post a pic of the 1000# fitting on a 14"x24" metal rack or 2 people and #700 of bear. I rode 2 wheelers for years off road and learned that some folks just don't have the ability to balance, and ride a 2 wheelers safely.

Now when you go up those steep mnts or snow covered hills that push you off the seat, then you add a danger aspect for some people. There's a reason why there are riders safety courses for 2 wheelers. Off road may delete the danger of being hit by a car, but increases the danger of riding right off a cliff or something.

I looked into Rokons years ago, and for the price just didn't feel like it was worth it. They are not cheap, as 4 wheelers aren't either. Glad you like yours, and if I had the chance to ride one, I am sure I would like it also. Unfortunately, for my purposes, checking hog traps as well as the other hunting duties, a Rokon wouldn't do. Hard to put 2, 3 or 10 hogs on a Rokon and ride back out of the woods, with the wife along. It may be capable and well built, but it ain't for everybody.
markc

264 WIN MAG · « **Reply #15 on:** October 06, 2004, 12:52:02 PM »

Mark is absolutely right. The military gave Polaris a huge contract for ATV's in the war. Then again they have everything from Argo's to Rokon's out there.

JJ, if you lift an ATV high enough you can ford through 3ft. of water and keep yourself dry. My bike is 29" at the tires and I have plenty more before I get to the seat. Sure I do have to pick up my feet, but it's a small price to pay for staying dry.

I have seen the Rokon in action because my buddies dad has one and it seems to do well climbing around and stuff although it is slow and you do have the whole balance thing. It seemed like a nice little toy but I prefer something that will stand up on it's own.

On another note Mark, you were wanting to see some pics of mud a while back. Look under my pics in the folder titled "Grizzly vs. Rincon" http://community.webshots.com/user/mud_monster_grizz

JJHACK · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2004, 08:07:26 AM »

Marc, as is so typical with this type of format the statements and replys are often misunderstood. My comment about the Rokon being the best off road vehicle was not implying that it could carry the biggest load, or provide the greatest comfort. DIf those were my important points I would just use a 4X4 pick-up truck. My intent was that the vehicle alone could be taken to places nothing else with tires could get to. Regarding comfort and suspension, I don't travel at high speed so suspension beyond what my spring loaded seat and 2PSI tires provide is not needed. 6 and 8 wheel vehicles and tracked vehicles have no suspension either. Those machines are really awsome in difficult terrain.

Here is a couple photo's of some hogs I hauled out this week. The only way in or out was on single tire width game trails. The photo does not show this but the way out through the bush was on a myraid of interwoven game trails through very narrow game trials up and uver boulders and among fields of rocks from the size of grapefruit and bowling balls to pumpkins and bushel baskets. I have owned a 4X4 ATV and know 100% I would never have gotten within 400 yards of these hogs. My ride out with myself and my hunting parner on the Rokon was not fast. We sat on the machine and with our feet as outriggers we walked and crawled the Rokon out of there.

I dragged the hogs to the place you see with a rope just so we had enough open area to get a few photo's. The trip out by GPS was just over a mile to a gravel road. From there a 4X4 ATV would have been better no doubt about it!

loaded and ready to roll to our camp

markc · « **Reply #17 on:** October 11, 2004, 05:08:16 AM »

Nice piggie there JJ. Glad the Rokon is working for you. Somehow walking and crawling the Rokon out of the area and using your feet as outriggers doesn't do much to make me want to buy one. Doesn't sound real safe either.

I guess, to each his own, it works for you and I would love to give one a try, but for taking two people and their gear way back, it wouldn't do for me. My wife isn't going to share the seat with that pig, or walk back so the pig can be carried to camp. Thats exactly why I bought a Mule. It won't go the places some of the bigger ATV;s will go, but in the land I hunt, it goes 99% of the place, and I stay warm and dry in the cab, and the bed carries the critters back to camp...Like those tires on that Rokon though. Looks like bighorns?

264 WIN MAG · « **Reply #18 on:** October 12, 2004, 02:19:28 AM »

Good call mark, those are Bighorn radials.

How are those tires working out for you? I thought about buying some for the hunting season when I am not hitting every mud hole in sight, but don't know how well they do. I don't think they offer anything bigger than 25" either though do they?

I know that I am not giving up my 4 wheels for 2. Been so long since I have rode a bike I would need training wheels. Like I said my friends dad has one of those and I saw him climbing around some pretty steep stuff, but he was having trouble keeping it balanced and he tried to go to the back side of our property and got stuck pretty good. There is a creek you have to cross which has a mud bottom and he got all the way down in there and lost his balance and the bike rolled over and we ended up having to pull it out with the 4 wheeler.

Old Syko · « **Reply #19 on:** October 12, 2004, 07:30:24 AM »

Well if those aren't Bighorns they are a close imposter. 264 you're right about them only being offered only in 25s although there are rumblings of 26s and larger but I haven't seen any yet. Friend of mine has a set on a 700 Prairie and they do well on the roads and hard pack but off the beaten track they leave a lot to be desired. Real smooth ride though on the trail.

As far as the Rokon goes, I've only seen 2 in my 50yrs. here and neither was running either due to lack of replacement parts or lack of interest. When you compare that to the hundreds of thousands of quads and utilities sold annually the numbers speak for themselves as to which seems to suit our needs better. I quit riding 2 wheelers off road about 25 or so years ago for the simple reason they wouldn't go in the mud and water and were just too hard on the body. With the advent of quads as we know them today we are now able to go places in realitive comfort that are all but unreachable on foot. To cut through the edge of the swamp or cross the creek I get up on my knees on the back rack, reach forward to the bars and go, all the while staying reasonably clean and dry. This can't happen on a 2 wheeler and I'm getting too old to pack 200lbs. on my back and wade through freezing water.

As Mark and I have said already I'm happy JJ likes his new machine and feels it serves his needs. I feel the same about my Prairie. Mark feels the same about his Mule. 264 feels the same about his Grizzly.

264 WIN MAG · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2004, 09:43:54 AM »

Now that I really think about it.

How the heck did you get that pig up on the back of that Rokon?

Another question is how did you balance that thing coming down the trails?

markc · « **Reply #21 on:** October 14, 2004, 03:04:16 AM »

Well, I am almost very happy with my little Mule. I am happy with how reliable the thing has been the past 4 years, and that it certainly does more work than advertised, but. If I can come up with the $ it will be traded for a 4WD side by side such as the Rhino or new Mule, or Ranger. I found that i get tired of having to winch out of a spot that shouldn't be any big deal. Other than that, the new property I leased should be easily handled with the little Mule.

Good riding to ya'll.
markc

JJHACK · « **Reply #22 on:** October 14, 2004, 06:10:30 PM »

The tires are Bighorns which have done everything you can ask in a tire. If they were 26" I would have bought them myself, but at 25" they are still as good as it gets.

The Rokon is no big deal to drive out with a hog on the back. You just use your feet when needed as outriggers to walk it over the really bad areas and climb up over anything in the way. There was a few places that a 4X4 ATV would have struggled because the approach angles were shear rocks about 20-30 inches high. My 4X4 ATV would have had to go around that kind of obstical. Going around was not an option with the thick sage. I rode out on 20" average width game trails well over a mile in distance travelled, but just over a mile as the GPS measured it.

I just grabbed the hog around the armpits by hugging it and then draped it over as seen in the photo. Not that difficult for me to do. I have lifted lots of things that way. I'm a rather fit guy with a strict workout schedule. I suppose I never really considerd it to be unusual. This lion in the Photo below was much heavier then that hog was at 201 pounds. I would guess the hog was about my weight of 170-175 pounds. No scale was available where I was at.

EPD1102 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 05, 2004, 02:16:41 PM »

I appreciate all of your comments on the Rokon. I have been considering one but I would like to see one in person and actually sit on it before buying one. I'm in S.W. Indiana and there aren't any dealers close.
I am looking at it because of it's climbing ability, hauling ability, and narrow trail width. It seems like one heck of a vehicle that an carry 1,000 pounds, can tow 3,000 pounds, and can climb over about anything while only being 31" wide.
I don't understand everyone's concern about balancing it. I have ridden motorcycles for about 30 years. Some of them have weighed much more than the Rokon and the 1,000 pound capacity together. The dirt bikes I've owned didn't weigh nearly that much but had a much higher center of balance and I often toted a passenger and I've never considered balancing it to be a problem.
I agree that it's not as big and comfy as the big 4X4 ATVs but I want something light and maneuverable while still being able to drag out or carry out my game.
Thanks again for the information/

Sourdough · « **Reply #24 on:** January 09, 2005, 09:09:14 PM »

Back in the mid 80s Yamaha made a two wheeled rig that used the same tires they put on their four wheelers. Only the rear wheels drive, but it was very agile. I could take it places that I could not go with a regaler bike or a 4-wheeler. But carrying anything on it was virtually impossible. Also when you got into really rough stuff and had to slow down it was hard to keep it upright. As long as you could keep your speed up it was unstoppable. When you did get it stuck in deep mud it was a lot lighter than a 4-wheeler. The real draw back was that you had to constantly watch the trail, you could not take your eyes off where you were going or crash. With a 4-wheeler I like to stand and watch the brush as I pass for hiding game.

bladesmith · « **Reply #25 on:** January 16, 2005, 03:48:49 PM »

Been lurking here for quite a while but when I saw this thread I had to register and reply.I am also a proud Rokon owner.I also have a four wheeler but if I know the going is gonna be tough I load the Rokon. Rokons are not for everyone you have to be reasonably fit and have a little mechanical ability to own one. I use mine mostly for scouting and running a trapline but I have hauled a few deer out and a lot of corn in to a feeder that my four wheeler can't make it too. Mine is rigged out with a gunboot and a large rack. It is very stable when loaded down,top speed about 12mph but it WILL go anywhere.The main thing I like is it is easy to haul and dosen't take take up much space in my pickup so I dont need a trailer to haul all my junk. Sure there not as comfortable as a big Polaris but let me see you drag that Polaris under a bobwire fence if you have to.I guess what it all boils down to is Rokons are just plain fun,Ill keep mine as long as I can throw a leg over it. Good hunting, Blade

top · « **Reply #26 on:** April 27, 2005, 11:56:36 PM »

if you are interested Rokon.com is a neat place to visit. i've been looking for a used one, found two on nation wide search, 1971 & 1976 both were going for $1,500. can find parts on e-bay but no bikes?? i guess people who have one won't sell it. they have all kinds of accessories too.

i guess i'll challenge anyone out there to find more than just two used one's and then tell me where to go.

they will fit on a front bumper rack on my f350 so as not to keep me from getting into the back of my camper. it will come in handy while in Baja.

oh ya the tires can hold spare water or fuel.

Daniel · « **Reply #27 on:** April 29, 2005, 11:08:29 AM »

If I have to stick my feet out to balance it while going through some of the mud holes in the Mississippi delta that we go through during hunting season (many of which cannot be driven around), then I don't want it. Furthermore, some years a good portion of our woods are flooded. I can just see myself riding through this water and slipping off into an unseen rut (which we have plenty of by the end of hunting season) and me falling over with the Rokon. Nope, I'll just keep my Honda 450 and 27" Vampires.

NorthernMich · « **Reply #28 on:** May 02, 2005, 05:02:43 AM »

I have had a 4-wheeler and a Rokon. My Rokon goes where a 4-wheeler doesn't. I hauled two bucks, the sled and my stand all in one trip, no marks left behind either. Try taking a four wheeler through a cedar swamp. My Rokon goes over logs three feet high.

I'll keep mine forever to pick morels and retrieve deer

If it goes through the ice...guess what? Mine floats!

markc · « **Reply #29 on:** May 03, 2005, 05:01:54 AM »

there is a limit to where any motorized wheeled vehicle can travel, even a Rokon. To me, if I have to get off and float it across deep water, then I can't really brag that it goes where a 4 wheeler doesn't because it didn't go there. Just because it floated doesn't make it better than one which kinda floats, but wasn't designed to. It's not all about going where an atv can't. please post a pic of the Rokon plowing a field with a pull behind plow, or seeder, or sprayer. How about the 3 point attachment with snow plow or bucket loader for the Rokon??? It's not necessarily better, just designed for a different purpose.

I can carry my aluminum 21 speed mountain bicycle on my back due to it's light weight, up a near verticle cliff, once atop, place the bike on the ground and ride off. Now that doesn't mean that it is better than an atv or rokon, or that it "goes" wheres others can't. It just means that I CARRIED it.

Now northernmich, when you say you hauled 2 bucks, the sled and your stand..... Do you mean that you had a sled that attached behind the Rokon and slid along the ground with the bucks and your stand atrapped down on it? I am trying to picture what you mean. If that is the case, then really it isn't such a big bragging deal. Most atv's even the smaller ones have a towing capacity of 900# to 1200#.

Now you say you rode across a log that was 36" from the ground to the top of the log?. Were the bucks still attached to the sled behind the Rokon and the stand as well? That would be impressive if you didn't have to get off and help the sled or Rokon complete the crossing. Please post a pic or video for us. Seeing is believing. Good luck with your Rokon.