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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2005, 08:55:40 AM »
I wasn't postng to pit a Rokon against a four-wheeler.  Just saying thatin MY case, the last two times I hauled deer from the woods, the area was inacessible with a four-wheeler.

When I go morel picking, I am alone as well.

The front tire pulls you up and the rear pushes, you shift weight and the front pulls you down.  I have crossed a rock over two feet high, on anything else I would have teetered.  

Rokon World has video of Rokons going ober 55 gallon drums IF you just have to see :)

I don't usually run into them in the woods :)

I got mine basically for free...I bought a racing Arctic Cat and sold it in E-Bay for a profit of $2500.  The guy who bought my sled bought a Rokon (only 50 miles from him...fate fate) for me that I located in New Hampshire and brought it to Michigan.  We went away both happy.

I have a 96 Trailbreaker, with rear seat, tool bag, and hitch.

The weirdest thing I did was take a trailer and haul a #400 door home from a freight delivery at my buddy's shop. LOL

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« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2005, 05:46:00 AM »
I've always thought the Rokon was an interesting vehicle and would love to test ride one.  That said, I just have a hard time understanding the attraction to them to the exclusion of the basic 4WD atv.  I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.   I think that the Rokon takes some skill to take advantage of its abilities that alot of off roaders either don't have or are not interested in taking the time to develope.   It is much easier to start up an atv, shift into forward and hit the throttle with your thumb than to learn balance etc  of a 2 wheeler.  

Then again to me, for my needs and what I prefer is a side by side vehicle, which for now is my Kawasaki Mule.  For what I do and the places I go now, the utility vehicle with a dump bed is prefered due to the comfort, ease of use, take along passanger, bed capacity protection from the elements etc..  When the $ allows I will upgrade from the current 2WD model to 4WD and possibly even a different brand.  

No it won't go everywhere I used to go on a regular ATV, but then again the ATV couldn't do half the work the little Mule does.   Anyway, post some pics if you can.
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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2005, 11:34:34 AM »
saw another Rokon, should have stopped and chatted but I lept going.

After that trip that day....I have to say this, $100 bet for any four wheeler and driver that can follow me on my Rokon :)

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« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2005, 04:35:22 AM »
I thought you weren't pitting 4 wheelers against a Rokon????     Enjoy your Rokon, but please give it a rest.  They aren't even in the same catagory.   This is an ATV discussion board, which to most users = 4 wheeled vehicles.  This is the last post okay?  2 wheelers have their use and I am glad you can "float" your Rokon through deep water, but it isn't the same vehicle as a 4 wheeled ATV, never will be, and never will be as popular.  There are good reasons why, but lets move on now.



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I wasn't postng to pit a Rokon against a four-wheeler

make up your mind northernmich.
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« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2005, 01:25:28 PM »
I didn't want the discussion thread to be 2 versus 4 BUT after my ride Saturday  midst  the four wheelers I decided to up the motivation to find out :)

BTW atv stands for all terrain vehicle and includes 6-wheelers and all.  And I'd love to have the Arctic Cat 400 with the dump bed for hauling firewood.

It just seemed the thread was attacking the uselessness of a Rokon.  Unless you have ridden one in the elements you might just not understand.

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« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2005, 12:21:02 AM »
you will go back to the original posting by JJ, and follow the thread you will see why it became somewhat lively.  Claims of "nothing compares" and "most fantastic and capable" tend to get 4 wheel atv folks excited, especially when the claims can't be backed up.   Floating it across a deep creek does not make it terraine capable.  It makes it a boat, kind of, with hollow rims that create boyouancy (sp?)   I wonder how deep of water the Rokon can handle, not floating, but still under the power of the driver, still running and still moving forward with a load on its little rear rack?   Even in JJ's pictures what you see is one nice sized pig bungee corded to the seat.  Now where does the passanger sit?  How secure is that load of dead weight?  

No vehicle does it all, and that includes 4 and 6 wheel atv's.  Yes, I know what the letters in ATV stand for.  You will find a similar response to 6 and 8 wheeled vehicles as to the Rokon 2 wheeler, if you go back through the history of this forum.  

The terraine capability of a Rokon is only as good as the guy driving it, which isn't saying much for some of our older drivers who simply can not handle it.  As several posters have said, if you have to put your feet down to balance it, then they aren't interested.  Sales of atv's show what people want and spend their money on, and it isn't 2 wheelers.  

One of the now fastest growing segments of the atv market is side by side dump bed atv's.  The introduction of the Rhino by Yamaha in 04 helped that market take off.  Prior to that the Kawasaki Mule invented the market and pretty much held top position in sales.  They slipped a bit, but the introduction of two new models in 2005 has them selling like hot cakes once again.  Why?  Because people want that type of vehicle and they are great vehicles!   It might not go everyplace a Rokon can go, or even a Rhino, but it can do things a Rokon can not do.  Even my little 550 Mule can do things a Rokon can not do.  No keep your $100.00.  Try placing 400# of concrete blocks on the Rokon and then safely traveling down the dirt roads with a passanger safely belted in beside you, all the while calmly drinking your cups of coffee, completly out of the rain under your enclosed cab.   Ain't gonna happen.    Or, try carrying two whitetail dere and four turkeys along with your adult passanger back to camp.  Carry, not sled behind you.  Those sleds don't last long in the Tx hill country.  All the while niether adult has to share seat space with the dead game, or even come in contact with them until they are unloaded back at camp.

Somewhere in there, at the bottom is the Rokon.  Not because it isn't a neat motorcycle and not because it isn't terraine capable.  It just isn't what the majority of atvers want.

Nuff said.  Enjoy your Rokon, now lets move on to other subjects okay.
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« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2005, 12:21:40 AM »
you will go back to the original posting by JJ, and follow the thread you will see why it became somewhat lively.  Claims of "nothing compares" and "most fantastic and capable" tend to get 4 wheel atv folks excited, especially when the claims can't be backed up.   Floating it across a deep creek does not make it terraine capable.  It makes it a boat, kind of, with hollow rims that create boyouancy (sp?)   I wonder how deep of water the Rokon can handle, not floating, but still under the power of the driver, still running and still moving forward with a load on its little rear rack?   Even in JJ's pictures what you see is one nice sized pig bungee corded to the seat.  Now where does the passanger sit?  How secure is that load of dead weight?  

No vehicle does it all, and that includes 4 and 6 wheel atv's.  Yes, I know what the letters in ATV stand for.  You will find a similar response to 6 and 8 wheeled vehicles as to the Rokon 2 wheeler, if you go back through the history of this forum.  

The terraine capability of a Rokon is only as good as the guy driving it, which isn't saying much for some of our older drivers who simply can not handle it.  As several posters have said, if you have to put your feet down to balance it, then they aren't interested.  Sales of atv's show what people want and spend their money on, and it isn't 2 wheelers.  

One of the now fastest growing segments of the atv market is side by side dump bed atv's.  The introduction of the Rhino by Yamaha in 04 helped that market take off.  Prior to that the Kawasaki Mule invented the market and pretty much held top position in sales.  They slipped a bit, but the introduction of two new models in 2005 has them selling like hot cakes once again.  Why?  Because people want that type of vehicle and they are great vehicles!   It might not go everyplace a Rokon can go, or even a Rhino, but it can do things a Rokon can not do.  Even my little 550 Mule can do things a Rokon can not do.  No keep your $100.00.  Try placing 400# of concrete blocks on the Rokon and then safely traveling down the dirt roads with a passanger safely belted in beside you, all the while calmly drinking your cups of coffee, completly out of the rain under your enclosed cab.   Ain't gonna happen.    Or, try carrying two whitetail dere and four turkeys along with your adult passanger back to camp.  Carry, not sled behind you.  Those sleds don't last long in the Tx hill country.  All the while niether adult has to share seat space with the dead game, or even come in contact with them until they are unloaded back at camp.

Somewhere in there, at the bottom is the Rokon.  Not because it isn't a neat motorcycle and not because it isn't terraine capable.  It just isn't what the majority of atvers want.

Nuff said.  Enjoy your Rokon, now lets move on to other subjects okay.
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« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2005, 12:22:18 AM »
you will go back to the original posting by JJ, and follow the thread you will see why it became somewhat lively.  Claims of "nothing compares" and "most fantastic and capable" tend to get 4 wheel atv folks excited, especially when the claims can't be backed up.   Floating it across a deep creek does not make it terraine capable.  It makes it a boat, kind of, with hollow rims that create boyouancy (sp?)   I wonder how deep of water the Rokon can handle, not floating, but still under the power of the driver, still running and still moving forward with a load on its little rear rack?   Even in JJ's pictures what you see is one nice sized pig bungee corded to the seat.  Now where does the passanger sit?  How secure is that load of dead weight?  

No vehicle does it all, and that includes 4 and 6 wheel atv's.  Yes, I know what the letters in ATV stand for.  You will find a similar response to 6 and 8 wheeled vehicles as to the Rokon 2 wheeler, if you go back through the history of this forum.  

The terraine capability of a Rokon is only as good as the guy driving it, which isn't saying much for some of our older drivers who simply can not handle it.  As several posters have said, if you have to put your feet down to balance it, then they aren't interested.  Sales of atv's show what people want and spend their money on, and it isn't 2 wheelers.  

One of the now fastest growing segments of the atv market is side by side dump bed atv's.  The introduction of the Rhino by Yamaha in 04 helped that market take off.  Prior to that the Kawasaki Mule invented the market and pretty much held top position in sales.  They slipped a bit, but the introduction of two new models in 2005 has them selling like hot cakes once again.  Why?  Because people want that type of vehicle and they are great vehicles!   It might not go everyplace a Rokon can go, or even a Rhino, but it can do things a Rokon can not do.  Even my little 550 Mule can do things a Rokon can not do.  No keep your $100.00.  Try placing 400# of concrete blocks on the Rokon and then safely traveling down the dirt roads with a passanger safely belted in beside you, all the while calmly drinking your cups of coffee, completly out of the rain under your enclosed cab.   Ain't gonna happen.    Or, try carrying two whitetail dere and four turkeys along with your adult passanger back to camp.  Carry, not sled behind you.  Those sleds don't last long in the Tx hill country.  All the while niether adult has to share seat space with the dead game, or even come in contact with them until they are unloaded back at camp.

Somewhere in there, at the bottom is the Rokon.  Not because it isn't a neat motorcycle and not because it isn't terraine capable.  It just isn't what the majority of atvers want.

Nuff said.  Enjoy your Rokon, now lets move on to other subjects okay.
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« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2005, 12:22:54 AM »
you will go back to the original posting by JJ, and follow the thread you will see why it became somewhat lively.  Claims of "nothing compares" and "most fantastic and capable" tend to get 4 wheel atv folks excited, especially when the claims can't be backed up.   Floating it across a deep creek does not make it terraine capable.  It makes it a boat, kind of, with hollow rims that create boyouancy (sp?)   I wonder how deep of water the Rokon can handle, not floating, but still under the power of the driver, still running and still moving forward with a load on its little rear rack?   Even in JJ's pictures what you see is one nice sized pig bungee corded to the seat.  Now where does the passanger sit?  How secure is that load of dead weight?  

No vehicle does it all, and that includes 4 and 6 wheel atv's.  Yes, I know what the letters in ATV stand for.  You will find a similar response to 6 and 8 wheeled vehicles as to the Rokon 2 wheeler, if you go back through the history of this forum.  

The terraine capability of a Rokon is only as good as the guy driving it, which isn't saying much for some of our older drivers who simply can not handle it.  As several posters have said, if you have to put your feet down to balance it, then they aren't interested.  Sales of atv's show what people want and spend their money on, and it isn't 2 wheelers.  

One of the now fastest growing segments of the atv market is side by side dump bed atv's.  The introduction of the Rhino by Yamaha in 04 helped that market take off.  Prior to that the Kawasaki Mule invented the market and pretty much held top position in sales.  They slipped a bit, but the introduction of two new models in 2005 has them selling like hot cakes once again.  Why?  Because people want that type of vehicle and they are great vehicles!   It might not go everyplace a Rokon can go, or even a Rhino, but it can do things a Rokon can not do.  Even my little 550 Mule can do things a Rokon can not do.  No keep your $100.00.  Try placing 400# of concrete blocks on the Rokon and then safely traveling down the dirt roads with a passanger safely belted in beside you, all the while calmly drinking your cups of coffee, completly out of the rain under your enclosed cab.   Ain't gonna happen.    Or, try carrying two whitetail dere and four turkeys along with your adult passanger back to camp.  Carry, not sled behind you.  Those sleds don't last long in the Tx hill country.  All the while niether adult has to share seat space with the dead game, or even come in contact with them until they are unloaded back at camp.

Somewhere in there, at the bottom is the Rokon.  Not because it isn't a neat motorcycle and not because it isn't terraine capable.  It just isn't what the majority of atvers want.

Nuff said.  Enjoy your Rokon, now lets move on to other subjects okay.
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2005, 12:26:28 PM »
someone in this thread mentioned they have a centrifual clutch like a snowmobile.. I think they have a torque converter. At least the new ones. they do have engine braking. I have always wanted a Rocon and will probaly get one if I can find a decent price.. They seem a little pricy 5 grand new. Hell I only paid 4000 for my 2004 Foreman,, 2000 for the little brother Recon. I love both machines but would also love to try the Rocon. When I am wheeling with friends and come to a big mud hole that just loves to suck in a four wheeler I look to the side of the trail and think. " Boy a Rocon would be able to just get around. Just scoot thru that narrow opening and be on the other side and watch they boys wade in the Mud and hook up the winches. I love the mud, to a point, but if you really needed to be somewhere than a rocon could just go around. They even make a drag to go behind the bike so you don't have to balance it. they even have a pto kit for generators and water pumps. I have never ridden one but those who do love them.. The gas mileage is just awesome on them.. Fill the wheels and you can go for a week. I have been reading alot on these. These are like little mules. They are simple. No suspension. except for the optional spring on the seat, but that does not seem to be a problem. same bearing used almost everywhere in the thing. The people who bash them have seldom even ridden them. People get touchy about their machine. I love my Hondas.. but a recon might be in the future. I hope. Maybe I will sell a couple of those big money Brownings I have. Hell I never even use them. Too pretty. Keep a open mind. they also have a towing capacity that is just un real. One would be perfect for the deep woods of maine where the tress are thick and the mud holes have no bottom. They would probaly not be as much fun as fish tailing the Recon or driving on two wheels..They make them in neighboring New Hampshire so someday I will check them out. I would love to put one to the test. Test them against Hondas, Polarisis, Yamaha.. Hell between me and all my wheeling buddies we pretty much have them all covered.. except the Artic Cat.

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I can't believe that nobody here uses a Rok
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2005, 08:22:27 PM »
Quote from: JJHACK


Here is a photo of mine during a recent bear hunt. The dead bear we shot is in the valley just below this ridge. We loaded the bear hide and meat along with two of us and drove back to the truck. There had to be 700 pounds on the machine!



Hello. I was actually surfing the net, reading up about the Rokon when I found this forum. I'd never seen nor heard of it before. I have a small forum about exploring the western US (mostly Nevada) using ATV fourwheel utility machines.  Anyway, lately I've been daydreaming about the Rokon and I wanted to express my delight at finding and reading this thread and viewing the Rokon photos.

JJ, a question. What's it like packing the Rokon for overnight trips into the boonies? I've seen after market luggage racks for them. Have you used one of these to carry more equipment?  Thanks.

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« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2005, 07:01:22 PM »
Know several people that own them, they all agree it makes a great scout vehicle.  That's all, as for hunting, not worth a darn.  Not a one of them will take it on a hunting trip.  It might be allright down south where the only thing to carry is a little whitetail or mulie, but as for a Moose or Caribou, no good.  And when it comes to our chocolate pudding mud, two wheels just don't cut it.
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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2005, 06:22:29 PM »
Sourdough hit the nail on the head.. The Rokon is a great go anywhere scout vehicle but 4 wheels  are what you need for serious cargo. The Rokon has the grunt to tow but balance is the key.. There are trucks.. Like my ForeMan.. Sport/Utility Quads .. like my recon.. Back up but sniffers like my labs.. Whell life is good... Find what you like.. and ride..  Ps. Wear a helmet... One person said he only saw two Rokon and they were not running.. no parts or lost interest.. Hell these things have been in production since the Nethercutter 1960's..  Little has changed except two to four stroke.. There are thousands in Barns and sheds all over the country.. They are seldom seen anywhere else.. People just don't give them up.. They only way to get one is to fork out a pretty penny for a new or like new. Just open the classifeds and there are so many artic cats.. alot of polarisis.. many hondas etc.. But the Rokon are closley guarded. Oh yeah.. All 4 wheelers are vastly inferior to a Bell jet , old Huey.. or Sirosoki Hilo..  And guess what.. You can latch a 200 pound Rokon to to a Skid.. even two..

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Re: I can't believe that nobody here uses a Rokon!
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2009, 06:49:43 AM »
I BOUGHT A ROKON BACK IN 04 I THINK IT IS THE GREATEST.  THE MECHANICS ARE SIMPLE AND PARTS EASILY AVAILABLE. IT CREEPS ALONG THROUGH THE SWAMPS HERE IN LOUISIANA WHEN HUNTING AND IT CAN CARRY OR DRAG JUST ABOUT ANYTHING  GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE PHOTOS   

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Re: I can't believe that nobody here uses a Rokon!
« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2009, 05:40:55 PM »
ok, first off i'm not trying to bash anyone or there machines and prefrences. but i read one of you guy's posts saying that you have to creap along with your feet out as out riggers, are you moveing faster than walking speed? would it be faster to just have a 4 wheeler parked as near as you can get it and drag, carry, or winch the dead game out? I have been looking into them for a while but i don't think i will get one unless i got the chance to test one out and liked it, but I'm just not sure at this piont.
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