Nixter, what price did you get from Wal Mart for the .410 Tamer? Thanks, also if you are looking to trade that stock set for something else let me know, I have been looking for a Tamer buttstock to try on my 45-70 for a carrying around gun. I thought that perhaps the stock set up for the extra .410 shells would hold extra 45-70 shells. If you don't want to trade the stock for another style and perhaps have any 45-70 shells laying around or have a friend taht has some I would be thankful if you tried them in the stock and checked if they fit. I have not been able to get a definitive answer yet....<><.... :grin: