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Offline Leftoverdj

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« on: October 06, 2004, 04:44:46 PM »
I was messing around getting a load ready for squirrel season when it occurred to me that what I was doing might be useful to some of you guys who have not gotten into reloading or bullet casting yet. My squirrel loads are built around the Hornady swaged 90 grain .314 SWC. They are dirt cheap, around $15 for 500 from MidSouth. I was shooting a 7.62X39 and they work perfectly in that. They would also work in the 7.7 Jap, .303 Brit, 7.63 Argentine, 7.62x54R, etc.

The interesting part is that they work in the .30-30, the .308, and the .30-06, generally without reloading tools. Because the bullet is nearly pure lead, it can be safely shot that much oversize. Decap a case with a blunted icepick or any punch that will fit through the primer hole, reprime by setting a primer on a flat steel surface and using a bolt through the case neck to tap the case down around the primer. Add your charge and thumb press the bullet in place. To do this with the fat .30's you may have to mash the case neck a little so it will hold the bullet.

I use five grains of Unique or Universal for this and don't much care what case I drop it in. A dipper works fine for this. The .32 S&W Short and the .32 ACP cases are about the right size, but get someone with a scale to check to see that they drop between five and six grains. Exact weight is not important at this level as long as they are uniform. You'll get about 1400 shots from a pound of powder.

If you are already reloading, buy a Lee .311 sizer die, the loads will shoot a bit better sized to that diameter and you can relube after sizing with the bottle of Liquid Alox Lee throws in. Size your cases normally and flare with any tapered object handy.

These little loads are great for small game and starting new shooters. They only cost about 6 cents a pop and are very quiet.
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2004, 06:22:51 PM »
Thanks for the info LODJ sounds like a fun deal...I'm not too sure about the 32 case throwing 5 grains of uniquie but it just may.....that unique powder is pretty versitle stuff...from quiet squirrel knockers to pretty dang accurate 45-70 loads...... :mrgreen:
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2004, 10:23:02 PM »
Deadeye, you made me go check. I knew I had done it in the distant past, but did not remember the exact weight. I took a PMC .32 ACP case shoved it down into Universal, lifted it back up and struck off the surplus with a straight edge. Got 5.5 grains three times running. That's the old Dean Grinnell technique and I think Lee still recommends it. A different make of case or a different technique might make a few tenths difference and a .32 S&W short would drop a little lighter. There's plenty of safety margin left.

Main thing to remember is that this is for light lead bullets only and for cases between the .30 Carbine and the .30-06 in capacity. A jacketed bullet would likely get stuck and I have no experience with belted magnums.
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2004, 11:47:32 AM »
Well..there ya go...it sure sounded like it might hold more that 5 grains but good thing ya checked...thanks again for the info...guess I better start pickin up a few 32's instead of leaving them lie there  at the range...never know when they might come in handy... :wink:
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2004, 12:10:34 PM »
Deadeye, pick up a few .32 S&W Long and .30 Carbine cases, too. The originals that led to the Lee dipper kit were cartridge cases filed to the right capacity and with wire handles soldered on. The Lee Dipper Kit is nice to have around but an expense if you only need one or two dippers.

If you have to, you can even calibrate a dipper with a graduate cylinder rather than a scale. Lee numbers their dippers by cubic centimeters. Measure the water capacity of your homemade dipper and consult the Lee chart to find out what weight it will drop of the powder you are using.
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