Author Topic: .270 Win. and coyotes (Read 1611 times)

hoghunter2 · « **on:** October 08, 2004, 06:03:31 PM »

Hey Y'all

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Has anyone ever hunted coyotes with this caliber. I want to work up some hand loads so I don't ruin the pelt to bad. I've heard about the 90 grain bullets but thought those would be to destructive. Maybe heavier bullets with a lower velocity. What would y'all suggest.

Thanks

oso45-70 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 08, 2004, 07:57:07 PM »

Hog hunter
I would think you might try one of the bonded bullets. Some thing like
Nosler partition, Some thing that wouldent expand on something as light bodied as a coyote and yes i think a heavier bullet might work best. I've never tried a 270 on yotes when i was saving the pelts so this is just a guess. Good luck Sir.......Joe.......

Siskiyou · « **Reply #2 on:** October 08, 2004, 08:13:55 PM »

At one time there were some full metal jacketed bullets for the .270 on the market. My experience w/expanding bullets running from the 100 grain Serria to 150 grain bullets is that Mr. Coyote is missing a fair chunk of hair and body.

hoghunter2 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2004, 07:42:39 AM »

Thanks alot for all the information. I think I may try using the bonded bullets at a lower velocity. I wonder when the Remington 6.8mm SPC comes out they will make FMJ bullets. Don't know if I will try them though. Do y'all think FMJ bullets would be worth a try.

Thanks alot and God Bless.

Lawdog · « **Reply #4 on:** October 09, 2004, 09:14:02 AM »

I would try the Barnes TSX bullets and make sure they weren't loaded too hot. Shouldn't open on coyote sized animals. Lawdog

Elwood · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2004, 11:40:13 AM »

Although I usually hunt with my AR-15 or 223 Contender pistol I have killed a bunch with my 270. I started with 90 Grn Sierras these blew unbelievably large holes with fringe hits. I now use my deer loads these blow a exit hole the size of a 50 cent piece much better than hub cap size. Elwood

Mike in Ct · « **Reply #6 on:** October 11, 2004, 03:49:50 AM »

Forget the light weights I use the 110 sierra very accurate but very destructive...If you handload try the reg 130 gr. hunting bullet at reduced velocity..The old speer manual has loads at the bottom of each bullet weight using stuff like SR 4759 ..check the lyman cast bullet book also..jacketed bullets can be used at reduced velocities from that manual also..Just don't try cutting down the powder charge with any of the slow burning powders favored for use in that large case..Reduced loads with slow burning powders can be dangerous..It is called a pressure excursion..Shooting big guns with reduced loads is lots of fun & you should try it..Think of it as dual use capable...You bought all that rig (good sights,nice trigger) & downloading will let you get the most from it..I have not yet made any reduced loads for my 270 or I would share the data..Remember to keep those cases separate & not to use them again for anything but reduced loads..Mark the bases with red or purple marker..Be safe & have some fun...mike in ct

bgjohn · « **Reply #7 on:** October 11, 2004, 07:37:23 AM »

The 270 is overkill. Get another gun. A 223 sounds good. You needed one anyway.
JM

scruffy · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2004, 11:11:02 AM »

I've had good luck with my .270 using 150 grain winchester cpx3's for big boned thick skinned animals like elk. The bullet passed right through with very little expansion. Basically .270 hole in, .270 (or a little bigger) hole out.

I've recently (in the last week) switched from "varmint" bullets in my 1-7" twist barrelled ruger .223 to 64 grain winchester cpx2 soft lead nose bullets at 3000 fps (muzzle) because the 3500+fps varmint bullets were blowing big exit holes on close up coyotes, say 50 - 75 yards, and blowing up on entry holes from 15 to 40 yards. Holes 3" to 4" wasn't working for me. Yea, the longer shots didn't exit, but most of my shots were in the 15 to 75 yard range... I like to call them up close.

So the slower and controlled expansion is my plan of attack for my .223 based on my .270 results. I can't wait to call and drop a few yotes at different ranges to note the performance. I'll (and you'll) always have an exit with the heavier solid slow expanding bullets, but it'll be manigible (sewible), the blowups weren't...

later,
scruffy

THE#1hunter · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2004, 01:47:21 PM »

Good luck

varmit_master · « **Reply #10 on:** November 02, 2004, 04:24:20 AM »

Hi i loaded some 110gr V-MAX for my friend's 270 and he likes them alot VM

Mac11700 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2004, 11:49:06 AM »

Have you ever thought about using a high quality match bullet?

? Give Sierra's 135 gr. matchKing #1833 a try...

Mac

hoghunter2 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2004, 06:51:44 PM »

hey varmint_master

has your friend ever shot a coyote or any varmint with the 110gr V-MAX. If so how bad did it mess up the pelt. Thanks for all the info y'all.

trotterlg · « **Reply #13 on:** January 01, 2005, 06:24:22 PM »

Even a .243 with 60 gr bullets is too much for Yotes if you want to keep the pelts. A nice 22-250 will make you happy, or if you need cheap ammo go with the .223. Larry

varmit_master · « **Reply #14 on:** January 01, 2005, 08:35:42 PM »

Hi hoghunter yes the coyote had a good size hole the bullet isnt fur friendly VM

myronman3 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 02, 2005, 05:41:01 AM »

shot a red fox this year with 150 grain nosler bt. all i had. damn near cut him in half. :shock: i WAS hoping to get him mounted. no so much after seeing what happened to him.

bb44 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2005, 03:55:22 PM »

i have shot 7 coyotes this season. i dont know what is going on we have never had this many around. i have used a 270 always on coyotes. using 140gr nosler part....and i have never had an exit wound bigger than a 6inches. i think the bullet just goes in and out and doesnt expand. all 7 i have shot this year have been shot from 55yds to 313yds. the 1 i shot at 313yds had the biggest exit wound.to me the partition on a coyote is almost like a full metal jacket bullet. and yeah i have kept all the hides i'm fleshing one tonite before i start tanning the 1st couple i killed

bb44 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2005, 03:59:12 PM »

i forgot to add that the 140 gr partition are moving at 2901fps. and i really agree with the heavy load theory. they really dont expand on such small sectional density that a coyote has

trotterlg · « **Reply #18 on:** January 02, 2005, 04:43:14 PM »

bb44: 6 inches? That is half a Coyote across! You should have no exit hole at all if things are right. Expanding bullets are no good, (except for Deer and Bears) they need to be the ones that blow up and turn to dust in the first two inches, a fat Coyote isn't a foot thick. If the bullet comes out the other side you have wasted all the energy the bullet has when it exits. However, with a 6 inch exit hole, you will not have to chase it far, and that would be a good thing. Larry

cap · « **Reply #19 on:** January 02, 2005, 06:11:12 PM »

Hoghunter2,

My original reply to your question about the 270 and coyotes must have gotten lost or it timed out. (?)

Couple of points quickly. First, when I lived in Grand Junction, Colorado years ago I got to know the old government hunter and many year Colorado game calling champion, Ken Thompson. He only used his trusty 270; said he could depend on it to bring the animals down at long distances or close, wind, weather, or whatever. He only used 130 and 150 grain bullets. Said he'd rather sew up a hole than lose the coyote or bobcat. And he shot many close and quite a few out to and over 300 yards. Said he'd tried the varmint calibers but always went back to his faithful 270.

I recommend you use partition or bonded bullets. I also learned one trick through the years that I've called and hunted with my 22-250 and other calibers. Whatever caliber you use, load up half a dozen cartridges to around 1700 fps for close shots and put one of them in the chamber as your first shot. (Remember to "paint" the back end of these cartridges with black magic marker so you can tell them apart in the field.) Then back that shot up with your normal "hot" loads. If a coyote or cat comes in close, you won't ruin the hide. If he is out there a ways, take that cartridge out and put it in your pocket, jack in a hot one slowly, and bust him with that one.

Hope this helps. Let us know.

Lord bless,
cap