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Offline Dand

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any body shooting the new 345?
« on: October 09, 2004, 11:58:19 AM »
I just saw an ad for the new 45 acp Ruger 345. It looks pretty nice. Has anybody given one a real serious workout yet?  Any reviews posted anywhere in Gray Beard?  Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2004, 02:48:11 AM »
Any firearm Ruger makes dosen't show up untill at least 12 to 18 months after they announce them. Other than the overly long throats on the mod 77's this is the most annoying thing Ruger does. I still haven't seen a Gold Label SXS yet, and that's two years now. They already announced a model variation to the Gold Label(straight grip) before the original has shown up in most places. That's annoying and getting old. It's hard to work up any excitment for a new model when you know you won't see one for at least a year.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2004, 03:07:53 AM »
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Any firearm Ruger makes dosen't show up untill at least 12 to 18 months after they announce them.  I still haven't seen a Gold Label SXS yet, and that's two years now.  It's hard to work up any excitment for a new model when you know you won't see one for at least a year.


   The P345's HAVE been shipped and are fairly accessable through most distributors.  The Gold Labels started shippeng a while ago but they're being made on a very small scale pretty much one at a time by hand.  Shipping in lots of 10 -12.  While it is a tease waiting for a new model to hit the shelves, Ruger has enough on thier plate as it is with current models.  Add to that the number of "distributor editions" and that's a lot to keep up with.  

  I know there's been some P345 discussion over on Ruger Forum.  maybe try there.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2004, 05:42:49 PM »
I've seen several in different shops already----they seem very nice actually--------it might be a future purchase-----but already have 4 guns on lay-a-way right now----so no spare cash to try one out yet.

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2004, 07:54:35 AM »
I've only handled one in a local gunshop.I liked the design and craftsmanship of the pistol.

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2004, 05:16:47 PM »
I bought a P-345 about 6 weeks ago. So far I'm very happy with the fit, function, feel and accuracy.

Ruger made some major engineering changes from the previous P-series guns. The DA and SA trigger pull is way better.  I really like the sights and it feels good in my hand.  Internal changes include a cam-block barrel locking system that works quite well. There is also a a buffer spring inside the recoil spring that really tames muzzle flip.

Of course the gun was made to meet California specs so it has a key lock, magazine disconnect, and loaded chamber indicator.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2004, 12:54:51 PM »
they're out there
there is one at the local shop here to
im trying to decide if i want it or a 1911
i know this is the ruger forum but what do you guys think between the two?
i have a hankering for another 45 auto loader
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2004, 03:27:44 PM »
I bought my P-345 for a couple good reasons. My favorite carry and combat shooting gun is my Colt Commander. I really like the size and I can shoot it very well. I've been wanting a Picatinny rail and a lighter weight for a carry gun. Don't want to booger up the Colt by modifying it so I looked at the Ruger KP-345PR. It weighs 29 oz empty whereas the Colt is 42 oz.

Being a gunsmith, the first thing I did was tear it down to see what changes Ruger made from the older P-guns. I found some interesting things, mostly positive but a few that were a bit negative. The magazine disconnect, loaded chamber indicator, and key lock are viewed by many as a negative. I don't have a problem with them. The DA and SA trigger pull are way better than previous P-guns.

I really like Ruger's new cam-block barrel locking system and their recoil buffer spring really works. The lighter Ruger has less felt recoil than the heavier Colt. Accuracy isn't quite as good as the Colt but well within acceptable limits. I'm getting 2" @ 25 yds (from a bench rest) average groups with a variety of ammo. So far, not a single malfunction in about 500 rounds. I've shot LRNs, JHPs, SWCs, and FMJs without a hitch.

I really am not a DA/SA auto fan and prefer the full time SA feature of a 1911. I carry my Colt cocked, locked, and loaded. The Ruger is plenty safe to carry loaded but not cocked. In fact when you put the safety on, the hammer drops (decocker). So the Ruger has to be fired DA the first shot, then SA until you stop. This will require some practice for first shot accuracy.

When operating the P-345, I found one annoying thing. With the safety on, you can squeeze the trigger until the hammer goes about half way back. If you force the trigger further, a little lip on the firing pin interrupt system will bend or break. The older P-guns totally disconnected the trigger with the safety on. This is very minor because I will carry the gun loaded with the safety off. That requires about the same trigger movement and pressure as a standard DA revolver.

Another issue was the way they made the magazine disconnector. The lip of the magazine presses on a firing pin interrupt plunger. Without the magazine in place, the gun appears to function normally with exception of the firing pin being interrupted and won't fire. After a few dry fires without the magazine in place, I noticed the firing pin was dragging. I took the slide apart and found the firing pin had peened the interrupt plunger. I used a file and dressed the plunger back to normal. My conclusion: it is OK to dryfire the gun but the magazine must be in place.

The sights are great and make a nice holster profile, better than my Colt.  The grips are cast into the polymer frame so they can't be changed. They fit me fine but others might not like them.

Guns & Ammo did a nice feature article on the P-345 (October 2004 issue). It doesn't mention the things I found but does have a lot of good information. Keep in mind; I paid $325 OTD for the Ruger and could buy at least two for the price of another Colt. It's not the best gun I've ever owned but for the price, it makes for a very reliable carry gun with good features.
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