Author Topic: UNDERHAMMERS?? What the... Thanks alot guys! (Read 1265 times)

Stoots · « **on:** October 15, 2004, 03:38:09 PM »

Fellas,

Just when I think I have got a pretty good grasp on this "addiction"...

I was planning my next BP 'fix' with a flintlock. Then someone utters the term 'underhammer'. Now I have got to have one of these!

Does it ever end? (I hope not!)

Jason

PS- Addiction counselors call people like you all 'enablers'!!!

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Ramrod · « **Reply #1 on:** October 15, 2004, 05:21:11 PM »

http://www.underhammers.com/

filmokentucky · « **Reply #2 on:** October 15, 2004, 05:36:12 PM »

Stoots-No problem, get 'em both! It's really the simplest solution--at least that's what I keep telling myself and anyone else who will listen.

Bottom_Slapper · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2004, 08:58:26 PM »

Hello all!

Quote from: Stoots

Then someone utters the term 'underhammer'. Now I have got to have one of these! Does it ever end? (I hope not!)

Does it ever end ..... Nope!

Bottom_Slapper
http://www.lx.net/wadeingrham/40.jpg

KING · « **Reply #4 on:** October 16, 2004, 05:55:32 AM »

:-D Actually it is a little more of a GROWTH type thingie. It seems that the more ya grow into having some of these things the more ya want and obviously you never,ever,want to get rid of the ones that ya already own. Kinda like the old addage.................................He who dies last with the most toys wins!.......................In looking around me I think it would be kida hard to say I might be in second place Heheheheheheheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.............stay dafe....King

IntrepidWizard · « **Reply #5 on:** October 16, 2004, 06:06:53 AM »

there was a Kentucky gunsmith in the 18th century that made a double ,twisting barreled flintlock,so after firing one barrel you twisted the barrel to the new un fired barrel with its own lock,D.Boone use one.

filmokentucky · « **Reply #6 on:** October 16, 2004, 11:16:59 AM »

King- I like the growth thing--- sort of a New Age-ish touchy feely approach to aquiring muzzleloaders. I'm for any rational that works. Actually, I'm in the unique and much treasured position of having a better half that encourages me in my obsession. Case in point: she not not only encouraged me to buy my new Hawken a week ago, but she bought me a second gen 1st model Dragoon as an early CHRISTmas gift. Truly I am blessed!
For those who would like one, Leonard Day will still make a swivel breech rifle in either flint or percussion persuasion for a reasonable price.
You can get it rifled or smooth bored or as a combination gun. Don't have one yet---but someday....

filmokentucky · « **Reply #7 on:** October 16, 2004, 01:17:35 PM »

Speaking of obsessions and muzzleloading madness, has anyone ever built one of Don Stith's Deluxe Hawken Squirrel rifles? This is one handsome shooting iron, but I'd like to hear about the level of difficulty involved. Hard for me to believe that anything that sweet is within my capabilities, but maybe... He does business as St. Louis Plains Rifle Co. in Virginia.

BS · « **Reply #8 on:** November 02, 2004, 04:14:06 PM »

54 cal. Green Mountain barrel. Hopkins and Allen hammer and trigger with my receiver.

I now have four stocked receivers and a fist full of barrels! I have an interchangeable barrel system, that lets me swap barrels to different receivers.

Round Ball shooters, 32, 36, 45, 54, 62, and a 72.

Slug shooters, 2 50s and a 54.

Smooth bore, with a non interchangable barrel......7ga.............shoots a 1000 grain RB with 180 grains of FF at 1100 fps.

Woodbutcher · « **Reply #9 on:** November 03, 2004, 06:59:28 AM »

Dear BS:
---------------------------WOW!!! -----------------!!..
Did you do that stockwork? Woodbutcher

Longcruise · « **Reply #10 on:** November 03, 2004, 07:16:50 AM »

BS, how does the half cock or "safety" position work on these guns? I've thought about one of the Deer Creek kits for a kids gun but am not sure of the safety aspects. Any help or advice appreciated :grin:

BS · « **Reply #11 on:** November 03, 2004, 09:49:15 AM »

Woodbutcher, yes I made the stock and the butt plate.

Longcuise, half cock is a big noch in the hammer, that works very well.

Woodbutcher · « **Reply #12 on:** November 03, 2004, 01:12:15 PM »

Dear BS:
A little more info would be greatly appreciated. GREATLY! (1) Your receivers? Did you make them? (2) Different rifling in the slug guns than in the round ball barrels? (3) If so what is the source of the slug barrel (4) Is the barrel installation somehow different from a tightened threaded assembly in order to be able to interchange?
Really nice work! Thankyou, Woodbutcher

BS · « **Reply #13 on:** November 03, 2004, 01:35:02 PM »

Woodbutcher, I have made recievers out of cold rolled steel [shown] then browned, Bronze, Aluminum and the Seven Ga. is all Stainless.

The slug shooter have faster twist rifleing to stabilize the longer bullets. The 50s are 1in22 and 1in36. Round ball shooters are 1in66 or70.

As far as brands

32 Douglas
45,54 Green Mtn
50,62,72 Orion
50,54 De Hass
7ga. Seamless stainless pipe .......proof tested with a double load and ball

The breech plug extends back into the reciever and is tighted by a set screw.

BS · « **Reply #14 on:** November 03, 2004, 02:48:40 PM »

Here is a nice site with lots of pictures and parts and guns for sale.

http://bluegrouseblackpowder.intranets.com/

Woodbutcher · « **Reply #15 on:** November 03, 2004, 08:03:09 PM »

Thank you BS. Very Impressive! Been at the Blue Grouse site many times, so my interest in your work. Woodbutcher

offhand35 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 04, 2004, 12:32:00 AM »

BS, VERY<VERY nice. The real elegance that can be seen in the H&A style firearm really shows!

Longcruise, the half-cock on the H&A's from BlueGrouse is probably one of the most positive you will ever see. It is a very deep notch that engages the entire sear tang on the hammer, that fully interlocks the two parts.