Author Topic: I need directiion (Read 716 times)

longwinters · « **on:** October 17, 2004, 08:43:04 AM »

I am new to the whole Glock thing. I have had Ruger and S&W in 357 and 44. I know I want to go with a Glock, but am having a hard time choosing which caliber and model. In particular I want a caliber that would pack around a 357 punch (but not the sig). I also want a gun that is easy to carry concealed so, in my mind, that kicks out the large models. I like the idea of the compact, but wonder about the .40. I primarily want this gun for carrying in the woods as when bowhunting I see quite a few black bear and want to feel a little more secure just in case. I know the 45 would probably be the caliber to go with but question the whole subcompact thing. Any advise?

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aimless · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2004, 11:25:21 AM »

Can you legally carry a pistol during bowseason? We can't in NY.

There are two 10mm Glocks, a full size one and a not quite as huge one. I've never shot a bear with a pistol, I don't know if 10mm would do it or not but I guess out of hte glocks that's what I would use.

I think the nicest Glock is the Glock 19, which is the middle size 9mm, they make the same size pistol in 40 and 357 sig also, I don't think I would choose any of those if I thought a bear was going to chomp on me.

I carry a Glock 36, the smallest 45, when hiking, but honestly that's for problems with people. The black bears around here are rarely (almost never) aggressive, but if one was mad at me I would want more than that little 45, even for a little black bear.

We did have a black bear downstate NY kill a baby a few years ago. Some folks from NYC were up at a camp and there was a baby on a porch of a cabin in their group of cabins. The bear came at one side of the camp and the men (to their credit as they were unarmed and I am guessing had rarely left NYC before) chased it off, but it apparently did that to lure them away, circled around the campsite and dragged off the baby. Damn tragedy.

longwinters · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2004, 02:35:18 PM »

In Michigan it is now legal to carry a concealed weapon while bowhunting etc... I really do not think it would ever come to actually shooting at a bear, usually I just yell and they run away. But I have had several instances where they just walk off 20-30 yds and refuse to leave. This is when I would rather climb down from my treestand with a pistol than without. I would think a shot or two in their general direction would do the trick. But just wondering about caliber and size.

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Somerled · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2004, 05:38:14 PM »

I'd probably get a Glock Model 20 in 10mm. It has a 4.6" barrel. The smaller Glock 29 is also chambered in 10mm. Its barrel is about an inch shorter. The 10mm cranks out more power than the .40 S&W but one can load it down to that level.

KING · « **Reply #4 on:** October 26, 2004, 02:12:10 PM »

Evening gentleman.....In ref to the baby that turned into bear food.......the people left it in a stroller,unattended,next to where bear were being activly fed,and walked into thier cabin next to this area Infants make a squalling noise that is very similar to a fawn which bear do prey upon. End result was Darwin in action Actually.people think wolves are a problem......they are not putting a dent in the deer herd,but the bear do and are one of the highest on fawn mortality. As for bear being a problem........not at all to worry about one attacking you. I have spend more time in the woods of this state than most people and have never had a problem with a black bear............now two legged critters are another story........stay safe....King

longwinters · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2004, 02:22:19 PM »

Actually when the wolves moved into the area I hunt I went from seeing 15-20 deer per day hunting to 3 deer in 5 days of hunting. This was 3 years ago and it has not gotten much better. I know the DNR tries to convince people otherwise, but it is a bunch of hooey. But I do agree that bears will wipe out the fawn crop in the spring. I have seen only 1 fawn this year during bowhunting, and the other nite saw 5 adult does come thru and none of them had a fawn. But I have had several bear come in and 3 times, in the last 3 years, had bears come in that refused to leave. This was even after yelling at them etc... So I picked up my glock 23 tonite. Doubt if I would ever have to shoot at one, but will feel better walking out from now on. By the way, it is only legal to carry a pistol while bowhunting if you have a CWP. Otherwise it is illegal.

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bearblade · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2004, 06:23:16 AM »

My 1 year old cousin had a run-in with a bear out by Gould City (towards the bridge) not to long ago. It basically only scared him. My grandpa takes pictures of the bears all the time (until we can get a bear tag). He has one where a bear is sitting at the picnic table eating the bait off the table. People think it's trained when they see the pictures.

Back on topic...I don't suggest the sub-compact if you have fat fingers like mine. Without a magazine, it comes to the top of my ring finger. With one, it comes the the very top edge of my pinkie. It is really awkward to fire. The compacts aren't bad, but I still feel the standardglocks are the most comfortable (haven't fired the longslides yet). Whatever you get and train with, you'll get good with.

Old Griz · « **Reply #7 on:** November 28, 2004, 06:01:18 PM »

:cb2: Get a Glock .40 or .45 for personal protection, and for bear, stick with your .44 mag. Stick some 300-gr. Federal CastCores in it and that will take care of bear problem better than any automatic.