i worked up a load using varget with 37.8,3 shots 2 almost same hole 3rd 1 inch high,cold have been me but i have not had 3 close together,i dont know if the first shot is the one high then next 2 touching,or first 2 touching,then 3rd high etc.... the rifle is a howa 1500. with 65 vamx and h4895 3 shots .434