Author Topic: "Parkerizing" (Read 1611 times)

handirifle · « **on:** October 27, 2004, 02:00:56 PM »

Seems like a read of some handi owners "Parkerizing" their rifles some time back. Anyone have any DIY info on this. I'd like to get rid of the glossy barrel on my bolt gun.

Mohawk · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:13:55 PM »

Handi, have you thought of a brushed blued finish? It keeps the nice blued color scheme without the glossy finish.

single shot shooter · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2004, 04:13:30 PM »

i dont know but i'll bet a parkerized handi would look awsome. maybe in the olive drab color they are using on those tactical guns :grin:

handirifle · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2004, 04:47:43 PM »

This was actually for my Savage. What is the brushed blue finish?

Mohawk · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2004, 05:30:34 PM »

The brushed blue finish is what is on my NEF Handi Limited Edition .280. It was a finish they used specifically for this edition, along with the camo laminate stock. Basically, it is a standard blue that is dull in finish. Even direct light will not show a reflection. I bet companies that do finishes will have that option. When I bought the gun it was advertised as "brushed blue". I really liked it. The same as a brushed stainless revolver except it is blued.

Sourdough · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2004, 08:00:11 PM »

Handi: Last year I wanted my stainless Encore dulled down for hunting in Tennessee, where there was a lot of Turkey around the deer stands. I went to an archery store and bought a kit for camoflage bows. It is a paint that comes in four colors and you just spray it on after degreasing the gun. This paint is soft and scratches off easy, but can be touched up fast and easy. The nice thing about this system is that when you are finished, or no longer want it painted, plain mineral sprits wipes it right off. I've since done my Handi 30-06, metal and wood.

Personally I love Parkerizing, I have four guns done that way. A 98Mauser in .35 Whelen, a .338 TCR, a Ruger .350 Rem Mag, and a Smith & Wesson 12ga pump. It is nice they don't rust in the rain, but it does wear off. My hunting partner had a polymer coating sprayed on two of his guns, it looks real nice and is very durable. One was done in OD, the other one is brown. It cost about the same as Parkerizing.

handirifle · « **Reply #6 on:** October 28, 2004, 02:01:12 AM »

I think I'll go the GB method first. It seems logical and durable. Not really ever concerned it if shines again. I want a rifles that will not spook game.

I'll probably do some sort of satin finish on the stock as well.

It sure is nice to come here and get jusu the info you need. Thanks all!

cgturner7 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2004, 11:06:03 AM »

I don't know what "Parkerizing" looks like. Can someone post a pic. How is it different than the "wavy" finish that is on the Buffalo Classic?

jeff223 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2004, 12:00:45 PM »

its a finish you see on alot of Remington 870 shotguns.if you want to see what it looks like check out a 870 at Wally World.these 870s not only have a parkerized finish but also have a nice pallet wood stock :lol: they still make 870s with a nice gloss blueing and walnut stocks but those are more money.nothing wrong with a pallet wood stock either,they work out good just like what comes on our handi rifles :wink:

handirifle · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2004, 05:00:39 PM »

Well I bought the rustoleum today and will apply it some time this week. I plan on taking pics and posting it all on my web site. Will let ya know.

Also gonna do the same (web post) for my project to make an XS style sight mount for my Win 375 BB.

single shot shooter · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2004, 05:58:58 PM »

parkerizing is like a dull blue sort of finish. instead of being gloss. thw "wavy" you seeon the buffalo clasic is called case hardening

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #11 on:** October 28, 2004, 10:38:26 PM »

Any decent paint shop could do a powder coat finish fairly easily. That would be very durable and non-reflecting also.

Ian

cgturner7 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 29, 2004, 02:53:54 AM »

Is case hardening better, worse, or the same as regular blueing or "parkerizing." I love the antique look of the case hardening but not at the expense of less protection.

Haywire Haywood · « **Reply #13 on:** October 29, 2004, 03:57:59 PM »

What you get on modern firearms is not really case hardening but a cosmetic treatment to make it look like it is. True case hardening is an old and inferior way of heat treating steel if I'm not mistaken. Modern steels are much much better than that. Today's "Case Hardening" is not all that durable and does not protect against rust. I know, I found a spot of rust on one of my Ruger Vaqueros and removing it also removed the antique finish. :?

Ian

handirifle · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2004, 07:01:21 PM »

Haywire,
Thanks. I thought about the powder coat, but controlling what gets coated might be harder than if I paint it. Gonna try the paint first and see what happens.

handirifle · « **Reply #15 on:** November 01, 2004, 01:12:37 PM »

Well, I put the rustoleum primer on today and took several pics. Once completed, I will post it all on my website. I'm gonna make an "oven" to bake the final coat on.

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #16 on:** November 01, 2004, 03:28:21 PM »

I had my Model 88 Winchester done with black teflon and love it. A waterproof coating over Parkerizing (phospate), developed for the Navy Seals if I recall. Anyway, the only thing I have to worry about rusting on it is the bore. It has held up super well for 11 years of rough use here in SE Alaska. The Black-T has been superceded by K-Kote. Check out this site: http://www.gunblue.homestead.com/

-WH-

handirifle · « **Reply #17 on:** November 01, 2004, 04:51:58 PM »

winterhawk
That does look really nice, but it would increase my investment in my rifle by 50% which is why I'm painting. (spelled cheap)

handirifle · « **Reply #18 on:** November 05, 2004, 08:50:47 PM »

Well it's done and I really like the way it came out. Looks really nice and smooth and was not hard to do. Time will tell now about the durablilty, but I think it will last a good long while.
You can read about it here.

http://handirifle.com/articles/parkerizing.htm#Home%20brewed%20parkerizing

Donaldo · « **Reply #19 on:** November 06, 2004, 05:12:27 PM »

A lot of WWII weapons were parkerized. As I remember it was a dull grey greenish finish. Might check out this site or search for "parkerizing" on the WWW. www.calvan.com/

wt · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2004, 04:57:34 AM »

I have parked 2 FALs and one Ak47. I always paint over park with Gun-Kote (http://www.kgcoatings.com) when I finish guns and have had excellent results. The parkerization process is easy to do and Brownells has the products and instructions. In addition to a few things you already have around the house, you will need a non ferrous container that will not melt when filled with park solution heated to about 120 degrees. Stainless steel is best, but if you are on a budget, finding a container large enough to fit a barreled action can be challenging. Such a container allows you to use a camp stove to heat the solution to the proper temp and the lower the piece to be parked into the solution. I would plan on painting a handi-rifle after parking because the hardness of the receiver compared to the barrel will cause a difference in colors between the two parts. Paint will hide this. If you paint, make sure you either build a homemade oven to cure the paint or send the wife to the inlaws for the entire weekend. The fumes from curing the paint in your wife's kitchen can cause issues between you and your significant other (ask me how I know).