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Offline oliverstacy

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1911 Style Clip Question
« on: October 29, 2004, 04:01:04 AM »
Ok so it's not a 45 ACP, but I have a question about a 1911 style clip.  

I have just rec'd a S.A.C.M. 1935-A 32 ACP from my grandpa that just passed away.  Loading bullets into the clip I have noticed that the bullets drop down as I load them into the clip. (the don't stay at an angle w/ the follower)  Seams that the rim is too large or the clip is too small and they will not feed properly.  Since it's a single stack clip similar to the 1911 (just smaller) I was wondering if anyone had some suggestions?

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Josh
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2004, 04:40:15 AM »
If they drop there is not,or there is a broken spring and how could the follower work as you say?
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2004, 04:55:27 AM »
Well this is what I observed.  The first bullet I load into the clip is at the same angle as the follower.  The second bullet loaded also follows the angle of the follower/first bullet.  Now, when I get 3,4,5 or more bullets into the clip there is a gap between the top bullet and the one below it.  The gap is at the front of the clip, the rims of all the bullets are touching.   This gap allows the front of the bullet to drop down in the clip and prevents the bullet to chamber when the slide is released.

Hope this description helps.

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2004, 05:43:53 AM »
Maybe wrong size magazine or back to the spring,which can be replaced.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2004, 08:47:17 AM »
Sounds like the magazine spring is in backwards. If you take the magazine apart, the open end of the spring should be under the front of the follower. Or as other have stated, bad spring.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2004, 02:54:36 AM »
oliverstacy:  I don't know what the SACM refers to but are you sure it's a 32 acp.  If that is the correct caliber then I would ask you one question - does it function?

You raise concerns about the magazine and the way the bullets load into the mag but, the 32 acp has a slight rim on it and quite often you will see rimmed cartridges load that way into the mag.  

Does the magazine retain the cartridges - if yes, then somewhat ok.  Does it flip them out or cause jams when shooting - if no, then better ok.

Remember one thing about the 32 automatics - wht that rimmed case they need to be loaded so that the rim from the upper case does not catch on the rim from the lower case.  Lay a couple of 22lrs out on a table and you will see what I mean about rims catching.

Failing all of that and your determination that the magazine is faulty (after casuing failures to feed or extract), check out the Shotgun News for two or 3 places that sell mags for that gun and get some new ones.  

If it is just the looks of the cartridges in the magazine, see if the pistol works properly - if it does, then the visualization may be just the result of stacking rimmed 32 acps in a single stack magazine.  HTH.  Mikey.

ps:  you're sure it's a 32 acp and not that French 32 caliber automatic they had in their WWII pistols.  The 1935-A designation sounds a bit suspicious - can you provide any additional information on the pistol.