I bought one from "Perked" that is around 14" from trigger to butt plate. I fitted a recoil pad while sanding the stock that added another 3/4". The fit and wood quality is top knotch but it's a little short for long arms. It is a straight comb thumb hole that is around the same length as a Thompson Youth model but I still love it. It comes with a real wide forearm and the hole configuration is for a Super 14 or 16. This guy will accept mailings of your favorite high grade wood or laminate blank and cut one for you. I was pleased with the quality and my purchase was during last winter when he first started selling them. I understand that he is a little more expensive now.